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[DemonOfWrath]

Ok I really want some way to protect myself from espionage now, otherwise I'm going to have to seriously consider the "blow the crap out of anyone who sends spies at me" route of deterrence. Having looked up what espionage can do on the wiki has made me decide that I REALLY don't want spies running about considering my tech lead.

"Espionage grants you one of the following randomly, new background technology, gravitational data for a known system, geological data for a known system, summary data on an alien class, the ability to build a random alien missile or weapon system or knowledge of a new system. "
That is damn scary, especially since I don't have any survey data to be stolen.

Do I have enough officers to form a team of my own? I wouldn't mind a chance at swiping the EU's sensor tech.

[Sheb]

Well, I think it gives you research points rather than a whole tech. It's also very slow. Maybe we could strike a deal?

[DemonOfWrath]

That's probably true, but it's still not something I want to let happen. What kind of deal do you have in mind?

[Sheb]

Scientific exchange mostly. What's the point of Espionage if we can't get the tech another way?

[DemonOfWrath]

Ahh thought so, I wouldn't mind trading shield tech for something, though I'd ask the condition that neither side can further trade the tech obtained.

[Thranx]

The EU's orders (subject to change as other members of the High Command weigh in)

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Space Orders:
--As soon as the first Galileo is completed send it to survey the inner planets followed by the gas giants and their moons
--following the production of infrastructure on Earth i would like to seed a colony on mars to encourage colonization by civilians as to establish
a trade route as soon as possible.

Production orders:
-- As soon as our FC and Turrets are designed design a Bushmaster Frigate biased on the Illustrious class escort but including our new turrets and FC
--Retool the Illustrious's shipyard to produces Bushmasters and begin refitting Illustrious to Bushmaster
--convert the remaining CI (if any) into Construction factories.
Set 30% of our industry to build construction factories, 30% to build automated mine and 40% to:
--construct 200 infrastructure
--construct 2 ground force training facilities
--construct 3 mass drivers
--began converting mines into automated mines
--Add an additional slip to the Warlock's shipyard
--Add addition slips to our gunboat building shipyard
--Begin to expand our large commercial shipyard
--continue to convert low tech armor into Heavy Assault. Convert one of the Armor into a Brigade HQ. Then start training a full Heavy Assault Division, with a brigade or Replacement Battaillon.
--Edit: Continue to build Warlock class battlecruisers
--Edit: Continue building Outlanders Until we have 5
Research orders:
--As we are working on tracking speed 4000 we must have speed 3000 which is adequate stop researching speed 4000
--Develop a single laser turret and a fire control designed to hit fast moving objects at point blank range and able to shoot once every 5 seconds.
--following this begin research into the next level reactor followed by nuclear pulse engines

Other orders:
--transfer 4800 mega-credits and 600 Duranium and 600 Mercassium to the PRC
--Set up an espionage team if the officers are around, and send it to look at Japan.

I slightly edited the orders. I'd suggest we put all change in bold and in color, so we know who ordered what. I'll claim red.

On another note, I believe we should invest most of our assets into mercury. It is an harsh planet, but relatively easy to colonize, as it's easier to cool a planet than warm it up.

Okay all put all my changes in green.
While I agree that Mercury is a good planet to colonization the US has already laid claim so to do so we will
have to cut a deal with them or fight a war over the planet
And I would prefer not to engage the US until all of our Victory class ships are converted to Warlocks
I also support a tech trade with Japan

Maybe they would be interested in or PD tech that we are developing in exchange for the next level engines.

Shield tech at Japans level is a joke so I would not be interested in a trade for that if we are unable to upgrade it

P.S. espionage is just not as effective as it sounds unless you have 10 or so espionage teems all on a single target

[Sheb]

I don't think the US would go to war with us for Mercury. The point is that we cannot simply allow a power to lay a claim on most of the solar system TNE deposits. If the US want to keep the all for itself, we'll need to go to war anyway. If it's ready to share the System with us, it should let us mine on Mercury.

[Bremen]

Ok I really want some way to protect myself from espionage now, otherwise I'm going to have to seriously consider the "blow the crap out of anyone who sends spies at me" route of deterrence. Having looked up what espionage can do on the wiki has made me decide that I REALLY don't want spies running about considering my tech lead.

"Espionage grants you one of the following randomly, new background technology, gravitational data for a known system, geological data for a known system, summary data on an alien class, the ability to build a random alien missile or weapon system or knowledge of a new system. "
That is damn scary, especially since I don't have any survey data to be stolen.

Do I have enough officers to form a team of my own? I wouldn't mind a chance at swiping the EU's sensor tech.

I'd still kind of like to wait and see what happens with the team. I'm reading an AAR by the game's programmer, and he mentions espionage backfiring several times; the team getting captures and divulging information to those they were spying on. If it works like this it's much less powerful, and works as more of a balancing measure; it's most worthwhile when you're behind on tech, and dangerous when you're ahead.

Also, still waiting on US orders.

[Sirus]

I'd rather not fight as well, but the fact remains that we have a substantial investment in Mercury, and more is to come. It'd be a shame for the first interplanetary war to be fought over a lifeless, semi-molten ball 
Perhaps we can reach some sort of deal. Say...mining rights in exchange for a terraforming vessel per nation? Obviously Forsaken would have to weigh in, but it strikes me as a reasonable deal.

Orders...

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Space Orders: Both survey fleets are to continue their efforts, returning to Earth as needed for supplies and fuel. Freighters will alternate deliveries as automated mines are produced: Mercury, Venus, Deimos, Io. Gotta get those other colonies up and running! 

Production Orders: No real change, assuming that auto mines are still being built. Once those are finished, convert all existing mines to automated (like previously ordered). Fighter production should continue until all carriers are filled with the default Kestrel/Zephyr mix.

Research Orders: Give our weapons scientist a break (assuming he isn't already working), and boost mining and manufacturing outputs by one level. After that, work on a sorium harvesting module.

Other orders: The US is to enter diplomatic communications with the other great powers.

[Sheb]

That kind of deal seems perfect. How about as set amounts of Working Terraforming Modules per nation (10 or so)? It doesn't matter if the modules are in factories, a huge orbital station or 10 small vessels.

[Sirus]

I'd prefer space-borne modules. Saves the trouble of transporting infrastructure :|

But yes, 10 units of mobile terraformers would be acceptable to me. Again, I must wait for my partner's input before any deal can be made, but I could see this working.

[Mr.Person]

Come on guys, we need some conflict here.

[Sirus]

Conflict for the sake of conflict solves nothing :/

Fighting will probably break out sooner or later. Right now there's not much to fight about.

[Mr.Person]

Conflict for the sake of conflict solves nothing :/

Fighting will probably break out sooner or later. Right now there's not much to fight about.

NO, YOU MUST ADHERE TO RACIAL STEREOTYPES AND FIGHT YOUR OLD CULTURAL ENEMIES!

Or not, whatever floats your boat. I'm just saying that constant peace is going to get real boring real fast.

[Sirus]

That's how Aurora is in the early years  v v

Once wormhole exploration kicks off, we may be running into robotic precursors, hostile alien empires, and even more spoiler-ific horrors