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[ikkonoishi]

I have a weird thing with carp on one map.

I have a section of the river where there is 2/7 water on top of 7/7 water. The 7/7 water is full of carp. The carp will swim up to the 2/7 water and sit their until they drown. Then their corpse falls back to the 7/7 water. Sometimes they go stunned instead of drowning in which case they will fall back to the 7/7 water and survive a bit longer before heading back up again.

Fish shouldn't drown if the square beneath them is full of water.

Also if you are swimming in adventure mode then if there is some water that is two tiles deep you can't swim up or down without ramps.

[Cosmonot]

2/7 water isn't supposed to be that deep. It's probably not high enough to help an adventurer to pull himself out of a pit, although there should be some way of scaling vertical surfaces anyway.

I think carp should be able to breathe in fairly shallow water, but I don't know much about carp.

[Draco18s]

quote:Originally posted by Cosmonot:
<STRONG>2/7 water isn't supposed to be that deep. It's probably not high enough to help an adventurer to pull himself out of a pit</STRONG>

The 2/7 water had nothing to do with the adventurer.  From what he posted, if you have water....

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Then your stuck under the surface and can't get up to that upper layer of water.  You know, like "swim up" and "swim down."

[ikkonoishi]

Yeah and if you are swimming on the top layer you can't go down.

Unless you hit s to lie on the ground.

In which case you *fall*.

[Sowelu]

You can swim up and down if you have at least novice (not dabbling) Swimming, can't you?

[Sean Mirrsen]

You can swim easily if you have the skill.

My adventurer once died in an absolutely stupid way.

The Play Now! adventurer started near my latest fort. The fort was flooded due to a u-bend bug. The entrance to the fort was with ramps, so I gathered I'd be able to just take a dip and go back, to train swimming a bit. Turned out I can't, without swimming. Deciding not to let go, I waddled, drowning, to the only nearby unflooded room I knew existed - the walled-in trade depot with the corpses of the starved elven traders. I unwalled it shortly before the great flood, and placed a door there so I could lock it, just in case. This was now my chance to salvation. I entered the room, letting some water in. Having done so several times, until the room was up to 4/7 in water, I started running about, training swimming. The poor creature I was playing (drider) was almost starving by the time the skill raised to Novice. This was the last chance. I opened the door, and started to swim, without drowning, back to the entrance. Already winded, I get to the entrance, and see...  a solid wall of ice.
During the two years that fort existed, not a single tile of water ever froze for any length of time. It just had to happen so, that the drop of temperature at night was sufficient to freeze the ice just at this particular time. The ice melted half a minute after I drowned.

[ikkonoishi]

quote:Originally posted by Sowelu:
<STRONG>You can swim up and down if you have at least novice (not dabbling) Swimming, can't you?</STRONG>

On the top layer yes.

You can move from the top to the middle layer here. You can't however go to the bottom layer.

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You could get to the bottom layer here though.

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