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Re: Containment
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2011, 06:03:23 pm »

Let's be realistic. We must hold for 48 hours. In three hours, we lost over 30 men, failed to quarantine times square and failed to make a safe zone. If we start sending our forces to suicide, we won't make it. And we only have 50 or so soldiers, how are they gonna kill enough civilans to make an empty zone?
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Re: Containment
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2011, 06:09:39 pm »

Let's be realistic. We must hold for 48 hours. In three hours, we lost over 30 men, failed to quarantine times square and failed to make a safe zone. If we start sending our forces to suicide, we won't make it. And we only have 50 or so soldiers, how are they gonna kill enough civilans to make an empty zone?

that's why i'm sending fake orders to HQ to make them see a worse situation. so they send more troops and weaponry. and phospore rounds and grenades. and hell if they burn.
in the end one must consider that police and militia who fight turn in zmobie easily. which makes more zombie for soldiers to fight. we start losing soldiers, we lose the war. we need to chop off police and militia from fighting. either we use them for suicide mission straight to the heart, either we set them into mass evacuation. make them swim if necessary.
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Re: Containment
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2011, 06:12:46 pm »

Hour Four
The tactical fires quickly turn to chaos when zombies start spreading the fire around. Nice job, jackasses! You fake news saying that the infected are overwhelming the island, which panics the fuck out of the military and civilians combined and you have to convince them not to nuke the island. They do give you bombers, though. However, most of the bombers refuse to bomb innocent uninfected civilians. One of the pilots actually say "You are a fucking monster if you want to do that! I'd rather die then kill fellow Americans!" and the militia, upon hearing what your plan is from the pilots, refuse to embark on a suicide mission. Wowie zowie! I never knew that normal people won't kill their own! This is amazing! They do accept the destroying of the metros. You plant the bombs, and once everyone has gone to a safe place, you detonate. The problem is that the tunnels are blocked by rubble, and now the zombies are all over the metro. Oh dear.

25% of general population infected.
65% of general population uninfected.
Most infested area: Times Square.
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Re: Containment
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2011, 06:20:54 pm »

Things are getting so wrong, so quickly ^^

Send half of the bombers to times square. Send the other half to destroy the buildings on fire to stop the spreading and dispatch soldiers to kill the zombies in the zone affected by the flames. Tell them no civilian is still alive in this zone. Use the helicopters to patrol in the city and take down any zombie they see. Shut every entrance of the metros, zombies should'nt have time to go everywhere, but just in case put cops at the entrances. Can we know how much zombies died in the fires or the explosions of the metros?

Gentlemen, does anyone has an idea not involving destroying the city?
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Re: Containment
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2011, 06:21:07 pm »

we now have 39 bombers to the cause.
we can now declare that the situation has been completely taken under control, and begin mass bombing of infected area. declaring that where we bomb there are no survivors.
and helicopters ensure support.
we shall win the war.
if we get those goddamn sherman fire tank!
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Re: Containment
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2011, 06:22:44 pm »

use fire teams to plant explosives that can be remotely detonated on buildings to collapse them and contain the zombie hordes.
Lets start shaping the battle feild more to our advantage gentlemen.
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Re: Containment
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2011, 06:26:51 pm »

We must calm down the population. They are panicking, and panicking civilians are easier targets for the zombies.
We can tell the military that we are starting to control the situation, but that we require more firepower, and more manpower. More precisely, we need snipers and field engineers, and of course the general grunts. Tell them that tanks could be handy.
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Re: Containment
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2011, 06:27:55 pm »

wait how do you mean spreading the fire, i thought manhattans buildings were made of glass steel concrete and such stuff?
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« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2011, 06:28:30 pm »

request tank squads and selective bombing of buildings to create barriers the undead can't go through.
Use those damn bombers to enact this great plan, bomb the sides of high rises and build that god damned barricade, make it larger then needed and send the soldiers to contain the few that escape, tell those bombers the buildings are evacuated, attempt to evacuate the buildings that are being bombed, screw the people caught inside the barricaded zone.
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Re: Containment
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2011, 06:33:42 pm »

Hour Five.

Modern cities can burn. They can burn real good.

The military are very pissed off.

"Red Crown, you just told us everything was going to hell! Did you think that you would actually trick the US Government into actually giving you shit? We have satellites, you dumb shit! What the fuck is wrong with you! Return those bombers now or we will nuke the city with you in it! Over and out!"

You manage to contain the metros, but you lost seven men. Using the bombers, you bomb the infected into submission. However, you can't contain the infected and you lose what you gained. While attempting to calm down the civvies, your other plan flies over and bombs the barricaded zone. Now the civvies are rebelling against you.

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« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2011, 06:53:25 pm »

Goddamnit we're all going to die. Now we lost our bombers, every thing is really going to hell, civvies are against us, zombies are everywhere...
Alright. Send this message to the military:
"There's five millions zombies in the city right now. The civilians are out of control. A good part of the city is burning because of the choices of the dumbest officer in the military. We have only 315 men to contain all the zombies. We can't make a solid perimeter, because we don't have enough people to do so. Panick is striking some of our soldiers. All efforts of making a safe zone failed. In five hours, one civ on four was turned in a zombie, and at this rate in twenty hours the whole city will be infected. Is that not going to hell?"
[No offense to the guy who had the idea of tactical fires, I agreed with him - I just  said that for the speech]

Now, everyone, stop the "let's kill civilians" ideas. It's clearly not working. Send someone charismatic (the mayor) to make a speech in front of the civvies and tell them the people inside the barricaded zones were doomed because zombies had infiltrated them, and that we did this for the greater good.
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« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2011, 07:20:30 pm »

So wait. How are the zombies “spreading the fire around”? Why would the military tell pilots that they will be bombing uninfected civilians instead of just giving them their targets? How did the milita hear about your plan from the pilots? The pilots would not be on the island, but, rather, at some airbase somewhere. The military also responded to your criminal act like you would expect your surly neighbor to react to your dog relieving itself in his yard. I very much doubt that, if you gave a false report, you would receive a call that threatens to drop a nuke on a city if you do not return those bombers that they could have simply ordered to return.

All of the sudden, everyone is heroic. They found soldiers will to drop fire bombs and nuclear weapons on civilian cities during World War II, but, no! Normal people will not kill their own! Wowie zowie!

Anyway, back to the zombies.

You have not lost your bombers yet; they simply want them back. Since everyone in this scenario is of high moral fiber, I expect that they will not nuke this city with everyone else in it. Use the bombers for something.
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Re: Containment
« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2011, 07:31:04 pm »

Hour Six:

(The pilots were told to bomb anything between the humans and the zombies, including civvies, so a empty zone could be created. The zombies are spreading the fire around because they are on fire and they take a long time to die. Remember the shoot in the head thing? You not only gave a false report, you said that the entire city was overwhelmed and did your best to make sure that nothing got out. You were intentionally leading them on when you should have tried to contain the situation. Also, you wouldn't have found pilots in WW2 who would happily bomb their own people. They bombed civilian cities due to an interesting thing about humanity: If you are fighting 100 enemy soldiers, they are faceless enemies who deserve to die. If you are fighting 100 friendly civvies, you are killing innocent men and women. Even if the enemy soldiers were innocent, we still didn't know them. They might as well have been monsters for all anyone cares. Also, the military were obviously bluffing. Anyway, you keep the bombers anyhow.)

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The mayor doesn't seem to calm down civvies. They are too hard-set on taking you down. You lose 24 officers and four helicopters from the rebels.

50% of general population infected.
45% of general population uninfected.
Most infested area: Times Square.
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Re: Containment
« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2011, 07:40:05 pm »

Send 3 helicopters to sweep over the street's, killing any infected they see.
Put 3 soldiers into each of them.
Have the soldiers evacuate any non-infected they find, and have them check for bites. If bitten, the person is to be quarantined.
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« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2011, 07:45:21 pm »

Stop bombing civies! Listen! Use the bombers and take out key buildings to build a wall around the infected area. Continue calming civies, tell then to evacuate the immediate area. Make the wall far back from the infected. Leave two key points open for civies to evacuate out, split everyone half half to guard the exits from the containment zone. If an infected is seen two blocks from an exit bring down the building and close it in.

Leave the people in the containment zone. Tell them to gather on roofs for evac, but we do not evac them, after the hour if they are still alive nd well we evac them to a quarentine zone.
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