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[Johnfalcon99977]

Xanatos Gambit: A plan in which all outcomes favor the person who made the Plan.

I was on a RP thread one day and I was about to fight someone. I was thinking about how the battle would go when I realised, I had made an Xanatos Gambit. Be aware that this was in a city being attacked, and that the "Patron Spirit" thing was something that increased my stats.

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[Taricus]

One flaw: What if he doesn't run after you onto a building?

[Johnfalcon99977]

I stand on the top of the building and shoot him in the head from there. And, with all respect, he would've ran after me anyway.

[Taricus]

And how do you know that your dodge will work?

[Johnfalcon99977]

I have a higher speed then him, and because I was winning, he would be more tired.

[Criptfeind]

Yeah. No. Way to many assumptions.

This is a fight, not a game of chess. All of this could go wrong in uncountable ways. Starting with the first one: What happens if he ambushes you or sees your ambush coming?

[Virex]

Looks more like a very elaborate Indy ploy then a xanathos gambit to me...

[Johnfalcon99977]

Yeah. No. Way to many assumptions.

This is a fight, not a game of chess. All of this could go wrong in uncountable ways. Starting with the first one: What happens if he ambushes you or sees your ambush coming?

He cannot do so pratically because my stealth skill is much higher then his senses Skill. He would need some kind of hack in order to notice me.

Edit: Also, you cannot say that he would call on some soldiers help, because based on his character, that is not something he would do. I still have plenty of Crossbow Bolts, my combat skill is equal to his, he has no ranged weaponry to hit me in the back with on my escape, and my Patron Spirit will *always* work. Tell me, how else can it go wrong?

[Leafsnail]

If you can decide the outcome of every possibility, it's quite easy to do a Xanatos Gambit.  I mean, you leave off all the branches where he could potentially kill you.

[Johnfalcon99977]

I do not have any branches where I die because its incredibly unlikely for me to die in any situation.

He cannnot kill me instantly while in battle, as per site rules. When I begin to lose, and it seems I may die, I use my extra boost. If that does not work, I use the flying power I gain from the boost to get away.

In a big weakened and possibley crippled state, it is very very very unlikely that he can beat me. That is the effect of the "Silent Kill" I use in the begining.

Any outcome in which I die is too impractical, optimistic, or unrealistic to happen. Ever.

And if I do die, it will be because I did not follow the plan properly, in which case it is right that I should lose, but it would not count as part of the plan.

[Fenrir]

I may simply be too unfamiliar with the game, but it sounds to me rather more like you are just deciding how to finish off a weaker adversary. “Should I use my superpower? or should I just shoot him in the head?” I am not sure that counts as a Xanatos Gambit (Side Note: I think I have seen every single episode of Gargoyles).

[Leafsnail]

Yeah, Fenrir's right.  It'd be like a super strong boxer making a plan "I'll punch him in the head, then if he dodges or is still standing I'll punch him again, then if he dodges or is still standing I'll punch him again and then he'll probably be down"*.  That's not a Xanatos gambit, it's just a description of a walkover you're about to do.

*In your case: "I'll use my first really powerful attack (Silent Kill), then my second really powerful attack (Patron Spirit), then my third really powerful attack (crossbow headshot).  Or I'll run away if necessary".

Come to think of it, do you really "win" if you are forced to flee?  Would your opponent really be stupid enough to charge you when he's guarenteed to fall to his death?  Is your crossbow really an 100% instakill (and if it is, why not just use it first?)?  Does your opponent really have no attacks other than "charge" (and, if he chooses not to charge, will he really just stand there waiting for you to shoot him?)?

[Strife26]

It's not really a Xantos Gambit, it's a standard if/then tactical plot.

Xantos Gambit would be something more along the lines of:

If we fight, and I kill him, he's dead. If he kills me, the witnesses I've preposistioned there will see my death, then when my Angel Ring revives me after he's left, it'll be considered a miracle. I'll be a hero blessed by a god, and he'll be a Judas.

A Xantos Gambit is when both outcomes serve the great plan, not when there's a recovery for the negative one.

[Sordid]

How exactly does "he's winning, I run away and come back later to fight again" count as a win? Xanatos gambit fail.

[Sensei]

I do not have any branches where I die because its incredibly unlikely for me to die in any situation.

This is how the Xanatos archetype always dies, by the way.

This is just a combat strategy, and not one that particularly makes your foe's efforts futile, either. Really all that it says is that if he starts winning you can go into your spirit form, or whatever, and if he's still winning you can fly away. No account for tricks that might be up his sleeve.