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Karakzon

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Dwarf Mass production
« on: June 24, 2011, 09:24:34 am »

Hail!

so: i have a cripple who cannot do anything, and is married to the mayor/cheif medical dwarf. this cripple is male. the mayor has had a child once every 9 months give or take a month or two, every single time. i know this because i compare the ages of their offsping, wich are about 7 now. -she had triplets one year- mainly daughters.


the question is: does it require free time on both dwarfs parts for children to be produced or just on the part of one of them? as it is, i cant assignt he cripple any job and dont want to kill him off, and the mayor dosent make me want to kill her for a change. that, and good medical dwarfs are so hard to find these days, none of her patcience have died from her administarons.

currently as is, these two will eventualy be the parents of a fair summ of the fortress, keeping the pop over the cap of 120 i use. in the long run they may become parents of the majority of the fortress. 0.o
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Re: Dwarf Mass production
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2011, 09:32:34 am »

Free time on both of their parts. I'd expect a dedicated doctor to have a lot of free time in smooth-running fortress. At least you can look forward to large natural growth  :D
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2011, 09:33:33 am »

Maybe you can devise a dwarven abortion center to cause miscarriage every 4 or so months if you design a safe and reliable way to do so.
Or you could just edit the babycap in d_init
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Re: Dwarf Mass production
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2011, 09:50:17 am »

you treat the birth of dwarfs as if it was an inconveniance. mind, i have defence modd on and a fort that can now beat most things thrown at it with an iron stick of doom. complete with magma moat.

ill have to set up a second and thrid family so i dont end up with a massive problem of inbreeding.

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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2011, 09:59:58 am »

As far as I can tell, inbreeding isn't actually a problem. Unless it troubles you to think that your dwarves are marrying their siblings, I don't think that anything bad comes from cousins and siblings starting families.
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2011, 10:13:18 am »

Yeah, the game don't simulate effect of inbreeding, and even then, if it followed IRL pattern, it'd take a few generations for problem to really crop up.
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Re: Dwarf Mass production
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2011, 10:26:21 am »

lol....

yeah, still. be better to have 3 familys or so. :P just to base the population off of it.

I do have a theory that dwarfs only have children if they have rooms of their own.
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Re: Dwarf Mass production
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2011, 10:41:02 am »

I am fairly certain that dwarves do not need rooms of their own to have children, and free time only seems to be required for getting married, not for getting pregnant or having birth.  Remember that in DF fertilization happens essentially by telepathy or teleporting spores, it doesn't require the parents to be anywhere near each other.
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Re: Dwarf Mass production
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2011, 10:54:47 am »

indeed, however:

i have my population swing between 50% no job to 1% no job fairly often, as i recast obsidian to continue building upwards.

havent realy got round to giving them rooms. however, those with rooms do have children more often than those withough. :P ive seen this trend before on previous forts.

and i know about the spore thing.
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Re: Dwarf Mass production
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2011, 10:55:14 am »

I am fairly certain that dwarves do not need rooms of their own to have children, and free time only seems to be required for getting married, not for getting pregnant or having birth.  Remember that in DF fertilization happens essentially by telepathy or teleporting spores, it doesn't require the parents to be anywhere near each other.

Well, I've seen barely any births in very busy fortresses, outside of specially designated dwarves, like the broker/book-keeper and the doctor, which I have or prefer to keep off-duty. And in quiet fortresses, everyone seem to be popping a few out. Free time seem to be needed, or at least very strongly preferred.

Other than that, yeah, don't even need bedroom, or clean space  :D
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Re: Dwarf Mass production
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2011, 12:48:01 pm »

I'm keeping my dwarves very busy, and they were breeding like rabbits till they hit the cap. And mothers can bear children even while cutting a tree. Maybe they need a free moment to conceive, but if they do so, they are particularly quick about it.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2011, 03:18:17 pm »

Dwarves breed by spores like everything else in DF.  They only breed when married though and need to socialise before they marry.  Once wed you can seperate them for life and they breed
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