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[jc6036]

@function: why would I recommend that he post a link if I already knew there was one?

[Paul]

Funny, I never figured people would dislike that change.

As-is the system basically had no skills at start on non-random characters, because you were forced to use points that were much more valuable in stats or traits. It also made the custom creation choice inherently better than the random and class based choices, since they alloted valuable points into easily raised skills. For there to even be a skill choosing page in such a system is useless if nobody will want to choose any. So I figured I'd split the points to make it actually useful.

Oh well, to each their own. 
I could change the creation to let you start with no skills if you guys want.

[iceball3]

Funny, I never figured people would dislike that change.

As-is the system basically had no skills at start on non-random characters, because you were forced to use points that were much more valuable in stats or traits. It also made the custom creation choice inherently better than the random and class based choices, since they alloted valuable points into easily raised skills. For there to even be a skill choosing page in such a system is useless if nobody will want to choose any. So I figured I'd split the points to make it actually useful.

Oh well, to each their own. 
I could change the creation to let you start with no skills if you guys want.

That does sound preferable, or rather, to allow us to start with whatever count in skills below the limit.
Maybe a system to compensate for what you don't put in skills, but I'm not sure what to make of it.

[Paul]

Well, the idea is that they're skill points. The "split" was me adding the skill points. Regular game has no skill points, only points. I still give the same amount of points. Only difference is now you have 4 skill points, so they're all extra. So it wouldn't make sense to compensate for them.

http://www.mediafire.com/?4v7cgmmbr9ofddt

Theres a quick compile with the check that you've used all your points commented out, so now you can make a char with as few points as you want if you want to leave skill points or regular points out.

[iceball3]

Well, the idea is that they're skill points. The "split" was me adding the skill points. Regular game has no skill points, only points. I still give the same amount of points. Only difference is now you have 4 skill points, so they're all extra. So it wouldn't make sense to compensate for them.

http://www.mediafire.com/?4v7cgmmbr9ofddt

Theres a quick compile with the check that you've used all your points commented out, so now you can make a char with as few points as you want if you want to leave skill points or regular points out.

Now this can be fun for Lunatic challenges. Thanks for the change.

[beorn080]

IIRC, there were vague plans to implement equipment and job screens in character creation. If you keep the split stat/skill points, it would be inborn stats and traits for one set of points, and training and job for the other.

[Paul]

No problem. All I had to do was comment out 3 lines and recompile that one file, hehe.

The class system thing that Whales already has in is sorta like a job, but it only defines one skill to raise. It sets attributes and gives a skill based on the profession, it's just not really fleshed out. Doctors get slightly higher int and firstaid, mechanics get high str and mechanics. On top of that it's all really random though, so you might get a heartless, drunken master, forgetful Doctor with 16 strength.

A more robust char creation system might be fun. Could have something like Professions and Hobbies, letting you pick one profession and a few hobbies - and they would affect starting skills and items.

[jc6036]

I would like to see just a tiny bit more detail in char creation. Other than that, the current system is great.

[Taco Dan]

Android trait gave me Adamantium Claws and Ethanol Burner. I also have Tough, so I've effectively generated Wolverine without the healing factor.

EDIT: Also, I beat a bear to death with a shotgun.

[Laedro]

Android trait gave me Adamantium Claws and Ethanol Burner. I also have Tough, so I've effectively generated Wolverine without the healing factor.

I do believe there's a mutation that makes you regenerate might be wrong though

[FunctionZero]

Android trait gave me Adamantium Claws and Ethanol Burner. I also have Tough, so I've effectively generated Wolverine without the healing factor.

I do believe there's a mutation that makes you regenerate might be wrong though

Yeah, that mutation greatly increases your normal healing value. Still too slow to be usable in combat.

There is a bionic that regenerates you on command, though. Really powerful, too. 10 HP on all bodyparts for just 10 power.

[BishopX]

Android trait gave me Adamantium Claws and Ethanol Burner. I also have Tough, so I've effectively generated Wolverine without the healing factor.

EDIT: Also, I beat a bear to death with a shotgun.

Just remember, you can't pickup booze with your claws out. My wolverine type character is still my best death. Starved to death due to running out of power while my claws were out was hilarious.

[NRDL]

Android trait gave me Adamantium Claws and Ethanol Burner. I also have Tough, so I've effectively generated Wolverine without the healing factor.

EDIT: Also, I beat a bear to death with a shotgun.

All I get's infared vision 

[The Scout]

What's the bullet that does the most damage?

[Shades]

What's the bullet that does the most damage?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Either Shotgun Slug or .30-06 AP both do the highest single 'shot' damage discounting burst modes. Including burst you probably want .45 Super and a gun with an eight bullet burst.
Lots of things effect fire rates and reload speeds though so damage over time is a harder question.