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[The Merchant Of Menace]

Thanks for the help whales, that worked.

Thanks for the advice Deon and merchant... I decided to reduce the value to 1/3 of its original. So if it takes a human maybe 30 seconds to climb in while carefully avoiding the glass it would take a zombie 10 seconds to barrel through it.

This looks like a good balancing choice .

Yeah, I think that's a lot better, and it still gives you a slight advantage.

[Ehndras]

I don't know about where you're from, but where I'm from its a piece of cake to get in a window around here, they're only a few inches off of the ground most of the time, unless its a house on a slope or a rare house with higher-up windows for added privacy. Most windows I can literally look into someone's house if their drapes are open.

[SirAaronIII]

FunctionZero: I might help by filling in info on the guns I have lying around. I'm using the in-game data shown when you look at them in your inventory with 'i' though.

[KimeK]

Editing Wikis is slow! Took me awhile to just fill in Handguns section.
I think I'll take a shork break now. Code-delving is exhausting.

great work there!

[FunctionZero]

FunctionZero: I might help by filling in info on the guns I have lying around. I'm using the in-game data shown when you look at them in your inventory with 'i' though.

Sure, why not. Any help would be appreciated. Also, no need to retype the description, I can copy-paste it later anyway, directly from the code.

[Whales]

I don't know about where you're from, but where I'm from its a piece of cake to get in a window around here, they're only a few inches off of the ground most of the time, unless its a house on a slope or a rare house with higher-up windows for added privacy. Most windows I can literally look into someone's house if their drapes are open.

Around here (where Cataclysm is set) windows are generally several feet off the ground, around chest height from the outside.  Tricky to climb through, especially if you are an animated corpse that doesn't know how to climb, but just kind of falls through the window.

The high window movement penalty isn't so much about realism as it is a way to help the player make a choke point, and penalize the player for escaping a house via windows.  I admit, it could use being turned down slightly; I might nerf the movement cost to 8-ish.

[The Merchant Of Menace]

I usually put a pit in front of them. So the 250 cost is plenty for me

[Ehndras]

Hmm, understood.




It'd be AWESOME if upon inspecting a mob we'd have a DF-esque damage menu showing damaged parts. I'd like for some of my lucky hits to sever a motor nerve and f- up a zombies ability to run after me, or make it blind, so that when I run off like a flailing madman, it'll have trouble catching up or finding me, relying only on its sense of smell.

I'm assuming coding a Fallout-style body-part designation system for attacks would be way too deep...

Could always do like Fallout and further improve the difference between melee and guns by making guns able to designate body parts to offset their ridiculous trouble-bringing ways, and have melee be a general physical flailing with object in hand.

[FunctionZero]

Could always do like Fallout and further improve the difference between melee and guns by making guns able to designate body parts to offset their ridiculous trouble-bringing ways, and have melee be a general physical flailing with object in hand.

I could kick people in the balls just fine in Fallout.

[The13thRonin]

To comment on the zombie windows thing, sure they won't feel pain going through. But you assume the window isn't close to the ground, its still reachable but for a zombie that doesn't have most of its brain functioning it would take some time to get up there.

None of the houses have a 2nd story. They're first floor windows.

Also Whales I was a bit hasty there... I just tested it... Code doesn't work. I even upped the values to -500 and -600... Still taking the zombies forever to get through.

Deon... Help me out... My brain hurts .

[GlyphGryph]

Yes, but first floor windows are still chest high and take some work to climb through.

There are already tall windows in the game as well that zombies CAN just crash through without the movement penalty. It would be nice if these occasionally appeared in houses, actually.

[SirAaronIII]

At this point I don't even care about zombies. Now I'm just trying to attract as many as I can by using a shotgun, blowing up gas stations, and throwing molotovs around.

[Deon]

To comment on the zombie windows thing, sure they won't feel pain going through. But you assume the window isn't close to the ground, its still reachable but for a zombie that doesn't have most of its brain functioning it would take some time to get up there.

None of the houses have a 2nd story. They're first floor windows.

Also Whales I was a bit hasty there... I just tested it... Code doesn't work. I even upped the values to -500 and -600... Still taking the zombies forever to get through.

Deon... Help me out... My brain hurts .

I will definitely try to help you tomorrow since I am interested in that too! Tonight I am braindead, it's 4 AM . That's why I released that small mod, since I am unable to mod more today.

[Deon]

For those who just want some variety and do not compile files for themselves...

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Deon's little mod (Version 2) for the awesome Whales' creation
Based on Head's windows SDL code branch.

- You can disassemble guns to get gun parts.
- You now need gun parts to craft pipe rifles/SMGs.
- New vegetable: raw potato.
- New cooking recipes: dinner, broth, soup, scrambled egg, chips, baked potato.
- Tweaks to cooking times.
- Drevlin's tweaks to menu (moving up from the top string moves to the bottom one; fixes some glitches).
- Drevlin's Parkour trait tweaking (you can jump over windows quickly and you are less likely to cut yourself on a frame; the trait costs 2 points now).
- Nails and hotplates spawn in more places.

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V2:
- Nails and hotplates spawn in more places.
- Fixed potatoes (they are no longer in cardboxes).

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http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?65t71s5jzj1npwi

Windows .exe version. Comes with source.

[Geen]

A few questions:

What do you need to craft a pipe rifle?
What does the zombie pheromone do?
Where can I get a katana? So far I've only found them on NPCs.

A nice addition to the wiki would be some description of some of the random landmarks like survivor cities or nuke silos.

Also, if you made a Fallout style targeting system mixed with DF style wounds, I would add you to my pantheon of gods, alongside C'thulhu and bacon.