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[iceball3]

Since bullets do the same damage as the bulk of melee weapons though, I'm not entirely sure how to make more units you want to close in and melee with... perhaps inviso-enemies that are really hard to hit or even notice with ranged attacks, but not as hard to hit with melee attacks?

Another way is to give them a high armor degree, but low health, so that a lot of bullets with low armor peircing ussually bounce right off, and it is known that higher armor piercing bullets are typically louder.

[Deon]

Where in the code is the font defined? I want to use a square font.

[Deon]

Since bullets do the same damage as the bulk of melee weapons though, I'm not entirely sure how to make more units you want to close in and melee with... perhaps inviso-enemies that are really hard to hit or even notice with ranged attacks, but not as hard to hit with melee attacks?

Another way is to give them a high armor degree, but low health, so that a lot of bullets with low armor peircing ussually bounce right off, and it is known that higher armor piercing bullets are typically louder.

Scarabs?
It would make a fun enemy. Small armored scarabs which seek bodies, bury in them and produce more scarabs after some time, exploding those bodies.

[FunctionZero]

Where in the code is the font defined? I want to use a square font.

Dunno.

Try looking in every file that has #include <curses.h>, since that's the display header.

"output.cpp" looks promising.

[iceball3]

Since bullets do the same damage as the bulk of melee weapons though, I'm not entirely sure how to make more units you want to close in and melee with... perhaps inviso-enemies that are really hard to hit or even notice with ranged attacks, but not as hard to hit with melee attacks?

Another way is to give them a high armor degree, but low health, so that a lot of bullets with low armor peircing ussually bounce right off, and it is known that higher armor piercing bullets are typically louder.

Scarabs?
It would make a fun enemy. Small armored scarabs which seek bodies, bury in them and produce more scarabs after some time, exploding those bodies.

Hm, scarabs sound a bit dangerous, maybe OP unless they're locked up close or inside labs.

[FunctionZero]

Since bullets do the same damage as the bulk of melee weapons though, I'm not entirely sure how to make more units you want to close in and melee with... perhaps inviso-enemies that are really hard to hit or even notice with ranged attacks, but not as hard to hit with melee attacks?

Another way is to give them a high armor degree, but low health, so that a lot of bullets with low armor peircing ussually bounce right off, and it is known that higher armor piercing bullets are typically louder.

Scarabs?
It would make a fun enemy. Small armored scarabs which seek bodies, bury in them and produce more scarabs after some time, exploding those bodies.

Hm, scarabs sound a bit dangerous, maybe OP unless they're locked up close or inside labs.

Kill it with fire.

[GlyphGryph]

I suppose tiny enemies would meat the definition of that that is hard to shoot but easier to melee, for sure. And if the scarabs have decent armor as well...

I like it.

In fact, a general "swarm" type of enemy might not be a bad idea as well - damage dealt to it with each hit could be capped out out a fairly low value, making you have to switch up your tactics to fire/quick melee/assault weapons (though that would use up lots of precious ammo)

[monkey]

Whoa. Whoa whoa whoa. I've been developing in Lua for years and never heard of this! I'll have to give it some study...
(with "this" I mean luabind...)

All the glue code is in luainterface.cpp in my repo (it is all glue, there is no other change to Whales code)

Where in the code is the font defined? I want to use a square font.

there is none, it should use the font of your current terminal.

[Deon]

Even if compiled in EXE?

Also, I can't find the piece of code which defines the way the containers interact with liquids... I want to make some recipes which use bottles OR cans in crafting, and I want the liquids to stay in containers they come from...

[neotemplar]

Oh snap I got me a gassed up jackhammer!  I love that I can just escape drill through any barrier.  And it's a decent anti zombie weapon to boot!!!

[DalGren]

Making ranged weapons less viable isn't as much of a priority for me, since most players seem to opt for melee, and ranged weapons already have the issues of ammo supply, noise, higher chance to miss, etc.

I like to play with guns myself...whenever I can.
With enough expertise they become quite powerful, but ammo and skill rust limits their usefulness. Definitely not needing a nerf (please don't make firearms useless, please please please, it's done so often in so many games...).

[FunctionZero]

With enough expertise they become quite powerful, but ammo and skill rust limits their usefulness.

All of my what.

How can your skills rust if you actually USE them?

[The Merchant Of Menace]

When you run out of ammo.
If you get swamped and need to go into CQC mode.
If you don't want to attract too much attention.

There's probably more

[iceball3]

One thing I'm starting to like a lot is .22 rifles with ratshot. Not really powerful, and really range restricted, but lots of ammo, pretty much no recoil, so you can literally output as many shots as your shooting finger allows in a short period of time. The only problem is reload, but since the quietness usually means less zombies, you'll have a better chance of reload if you run around a corner or somesuch.

[The13thRonin]

Trawling through the files I notice some references to weapon loudness but they seem to not be used? Is this a feature that has yet to be implemented? Is it true that a shogun fires at the same volume as a pistol or smg?

Also I've already started modding a Dawn of the Dead (remake) fast zombies type spin off where weapons are more deadly but there are more zombies.

I've been working on the wiki and this is one of the things that I am having trouble finding. ranged.cpp mentions p.weapon.sound yet I can't find where that is calculated for the weapon. I will continue to look.

Ah, I think this is it. From item.cpp line 856

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int item::noise()
{
 if (!is_gun())
  return 0;
 int ret = 0;
 if (curammo != NULL)
  ret = curammo->damage * .8;
 if (ret >= 5)
  ret += 20;
 for (int i = 0; i < contents.size(); i++) {
  if (contents[i].is_gunmod())
   ret += (dynamic_cast<it_gunmod*>(contents[i].type))->loudness;
 }
 return ret;
}


What's the wiki link?