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[jc6036]

Perchance it could be destroyed/ripped off by torso attacks? And acid would work but normally damage from acid goes to your feet. . . I'm stumped.

[Drevlin]

That's the problem of the acid, it goes to your feet, whereas bile is spitted on you.
The watch is currently implemented as a "glove", so arms damage should destroy it, but testing on the old mod revealed that it is rare, so I had to think some other circumstance that leads to the watch destruction. I don't know if the code permits to damage an item that covers the hands by torso attacks, I did not read that part of code.

[G-Flex]

Why does a watch only last three days? Watches aren't exactly high-power devices. They can survive for extremely long times using very tiny batteries.


Only knowing if it's day or night without a watch is... pretty silly. Realistically, you'd at least know if it's around dawn, morning, mid-day, afternoon, dusk, or night.

[Necro910]

Why does a watch only last three days? Watches aren't exactly high-power devices. They can survive for extremely long times using very tiny batteries.


Only knowing if it's day or night without a watch is... pretty silly. Realistically, you'd at least know if it's around dawn, morning, mid-day, afternoon, dusk, or night.

Or if you are a man, you can tell by looking at the sun.

And if you're a sailor, look at the stars.

[Angle]

bug report here, I'm trying to use a stack of first aid kits and getting a segment fault. What happens is I have twelve in the stack, I use the first one and have eleven, I try to use another and get a segment fault. Probably related to Item stacking.

[Whales]

Just a little update; item stacking is working beautifully   At long last, right?  Time to write a new drop interface which allows you to select a portion of a stack...

bug report here, I'm trying to use a stack of first aid kits and getting a segment fault. What happens is I have twelve in the stack, I use the first one and have eleven, I try to use another and get a segment fault. Probably related to Item stacking.

Some third-party stacking mod?  Don't worry, you'll have the real thing soon, completely with its own set of bugs!

[Angle]

Sorry, That was in reference to the mod drevlin just dropped on us. On another note, I just had another segfault while sleeping. and it is repeating everytime I reload the game. I'm wondering if this could something to do with healing? or maybe an item nearby is being processed, and causing segfaults?

[Whales]

Sorry, That was in reference to the mod drevlin just dropped on us. On another note, I just had another segfault while sleeping. and it is repeating everytime I reload the game. I'm wondering if this could something to do with healing? or maybe an item nearby is being processed, and causing segfaults?

Ahh, gotcha.  Judging from Drevlin's post here, he's doing some pretty technically ambitious stuff here, which is awesome, but from experience it definitely looks like the kind of thing that could germinate bugs.

[Gamerlord]

Hey, what version are we on?

[Mechanoid]

Apparently, queen triffids can spawn underground and tunnel through rock.

Goodbye, another character.

[G-Flex]

You think that's bad? A recent character of mine was standing in a house and a hunting horror and a mi-go (Very Bad News) showed up out of nowhere and slaughtered him.

My most successful character is up to eight fanny packs right now. It's like he's got some kind of super utility belt. And yet gun holsters don't layer well with pants yet.

[Drevlin]

1)Why does a watch only last three days? Watches aren't exactly high-power devices. They can survive for extremely long times using very tiny batteries.

2)Only knowing if it's day or night without a watch is... pretty silly. Realistically, you'd at least know if it's around dawn, morning, mid-day, afternoon, dusk, or night.

1)True, the reason behind this is that if the watch lasts long, like in real life, you don't have the problem to find batteries to recharge it and the gameplay become less interesting.

2)With the old mod the player knows if it's morning, noon, afternoon, dusk or night, but a big problem arises: if you have an unsynchronized watch that, for example, shows 5.00 PM and you know that is noon, you can deduce that your watch is 5 hours ahead and you don't have to reach a computer to synch it.
I was thinking to make this perception-related, e.g. if you have a perception of 15 you are able to know the phase of the day, otherwise you don't, but I don't know how to balance this. Do you have any idea?
(I was also thinking that sleeping could modify the player's perception of time.)

On another note, I just had another segfault while sleeping. and it is repeating everytime I reload the game. I'm wondering if this could something to do with healing? or maybe an item nearby is being processed, and causing segfaults?

On linux I didn't notice segfaults, but I noticed some warnings due to the stacking mod merge. This was the most difficult mod to merge because we don't have any diffs, and I haven't tested it properly. The watch mod should be safe because I tested it deeply, and the other mods should not create problems. I think I'll try to remove the stacking mod to see if it resolves the problem.

[Mechanoid]

I was thinking to make this perception-related, e.g. if you have a perception of 15 you are able to know the phase of the day, otherwise you don't, but I don't know how to balance this.

The more perception you have, the less margin of error you have about the phase of the day. If you have perfect perception, when you check the sky for the phase of day you get closer to the real time that phase is. Every point below 15 perception increases the margin of error you have by 20 minutes.
14 perception: 20 minutes error
12: 1 hour
9: 2 hours
6: 3 hours, which should be the cut-off point, being nicely halfway between sunrise, and noon.
(sunrise at 6?AM, noon at 12AM. If you're on 9AM, it could go either way with the 3 hour margin for error; otherwise you might get stupid crap like "yes, it's still midnight!" with 1 perception despite the sun being clearly visible)

[Shades]

1)True, the reason behind this is that if the watch lasts long, like in real life, you don't have the problem to find batteries to recharge it and the gameplay become less interesting.

Personally I don't find having t recharge it interesting gameplay, batteries are not overly hard to find to it's just a chore.

2)With the old mod the player knows if it's morning, noon, afternoon, dusk or night, but a big problem arises: if you have an unsynchronized watch that, for example, shows 5.00 PM and you know that is noon, you can deduce that your watch is 5 hours ahead and you don't have to reach a computer to synch it.

I would assume the player estimates of noon is a while enough range that you couldn't guess the time that accurately, You'd know your watch is a number of hours a head, probably from 3 to 7 or so depending how wide the noon range is but that is about it. Seems inaccurate enough for me.

[Mephansteras]

1)Why does a watch only last three days? Watches aren't exactly high-power devices. They can survive for extremely long times using very tiny batteries.

2)Only knowing if it's day or night without a watch is... pretty silly. Realistically, you'd at least know if it's around dawn, morning, mid-day, afternoon, dusk, or night.

1)True, the reason behind this is that if the watch lasts long, like in real life, you don't have the problem to find batteries to recharge it and the gameplay become less interesting.

2)With the old mod the player knows if it's morning, noon, afternoon, dusk or night, but a big problem arises: if you have an unsynchronized watch that, for example, shows 5.00 PM and you know that is noon, you can deduce that your watch is 5 hours ahead and you don't have to reach a computer to synch it.

That's what I'd do in real life. It seems like you're trying to make telling time some sort of important aspect to the game, but I'm really not sure why that would make the game more fun in any way.

I don't find that adding artificial difficulty into a game like this to really help anything. I like the idea of needing a watch to accurately tell time, but I don't see any reason why it should become a chore to deal with. It's a watch. It's nice to have, but that's about it. The majority of the time you don't care exactly when it is, just roughly how much time you have before it gets dark. It's not like people didn't know how figure out roughly how long they had before the sun set before watches were invented.

I'm all for adding interesting things to the game, but for something like this it either needs to be realistic or fantastic. Making a simple real-world item super-complicated to deal with is just annoying, not fun.

My 2 cents on it, anyway.