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[Gaulgath]

Recently, I've been having a problem. My fisherdwarves have been catching me lots of turtles, which, of course, means lots of turtle shells. However, I've been noticing little piles of them appearing here in there at ground level near my entrance:

The two little green 2's in the entry hall are also turtle shell piles. There should be NO reason for them being there, yet there is a two page stack of turtle bones and shells in the above screenshot.

(and yes, this is in 33a)

[Pacho]

They look like they're being dumped there.  Is there a garbage designation in that tile?

They have the forbidden tag around the shells and bones as far as I can tell.

[Gaulgath]

Yeah, I forbade them from being picked up so my craftsdwarf would help empty my full bone/shell stockpile instead of grabbing crap from outside. That is not designated as a garbage dump.

[Starfisher]

Is something above it designated as a garbage dump?

My forts have always been in cliffs so far, so I usually set my dwarves to toss skulls and shells off the side. They end up in a pile like that.

[Mylon]

If only I had that many turtle shells!  I love decorating stuff with shells, as it increases the value of goods without actually making more of them.

[Nakar]

Ask me about my 500+ yearly turtle haul living in a temperate area!

[Paul]

I've seen a similar thing on one fort, but the crap was being stored in the very corner of the map inside a undigable rock tile. It had tons of turtle shells, turtle bones, and various other fish bones. I only saw it on a whim when I ran reveal.exe just to see what all I was missing before I abandoned the fort due to bad fps.

The fort had been running for years, and the stuff was a massive pile in the corner - probably 1000+ items. I couldn't get to them to do anything with them, though.

[axus]

Maybe its the remains of turtles that die a natural death?  Maybe they're falling off the cliff?

[Entropy]

quote:Originally posted by axus:
<STRONG>Maybe its the remains of turtles that die a natural death?  Maybe they're falling off the cliff?</STRONG>

Of course.  It must be a small herd of turtles throwing themselves off a cliff - perfectly natural death for a turtle.    

Looks to me like there is a dump zone above it where dwarfs are tossing bones and shells.  Are your refuse orders set to dump those?

[ November 14, 2007: Message edited by: Entropy ]

[Eagle of Fire]

Looks like the remnant of an old bug. Any of you guys remember seeing bones appearing at the upper left corner of the map in 23a? Happened to me once, the only time a game ever crashed on me yet.

[Metalax]

Yeah it would happen if prepared turtles were allowed to decay through wear over time, then the bones and shells would teleport to the top left corner.

[hactar1]

I have the opposite problem... my fisherdwarves catch and process turtles all the time, and yet I've never seen a single turtle shell.  Then I had a Mood that asked for shell, and I watched helplessly as dozens of turtles went from the river into the other dwarves' bellies without generating any shell.  Do I have magical shell-less turtles?

[palin88]

If you cook them, I think the bones and shell disappear.

[Eagle of Fire]

And raw turtles need to be eaten first before you can use the shell.

[qalnor]

Well the person who made the thread hasn't posted since someone asked whether it was under a garbage designation, so I think at this point we have to assume that was the cause. Speculation is pretty pointless given the amount of information available.