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Flaming Toadstool

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Butchering
« on: June 20, 2011, 03:01:57 pm »

Alright, I am having some problems with trying to butcher an animal I killed. I don't know why my butcher won't butcher it. I have:

- set my butchers labour preference to Butchering
- put the corpse in a refuse stockpile near the butcher shop I made
- made sure the corpse is not rotten
- made sure the corpse is unforrbiden

If I try to set the task in the Butcher Shop to butcher a dead animal, it just tells me "Needs butcherable unrotten item nearby". Is there something I am doing wrong here? Is it because I sent my military to kill the animal instead of a hunter?
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Re: Butchering
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2011, 03:13:34 pm »

What kind of animal is it?  Many very small animals - cavies, ducks, rabbits - can't be butchered, as they are too small to yield any meat or bones when butchered.
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Re: Butchering
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2011, 03:16:02 pm »

what creature is it?
What kind of animal is it?  Many very small animals - cavies, ducks, rabbits - can't be butchered, as they are too small to yield any meat or bones when butchered.
This is wrong, you CAN butcher small animals, but they will only give you a skull
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Re: Butchering
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2011, 03:21:09 pm »

What kind of animal is it?  Many very small animals - cavies, ducks, rabbits - can't be butchered, as they are too small to yield any meat or bones when butchered.
This is wrong, you CAN butcher small animals, but they will only give you a skull
Not if they're wild.  Tame animals can always be slaughtered, giving you a skull if the animal has a skull.  The butcher will refuse to butcher a wild animal corpse if it's too small to yield anything but a skull.
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Re: Butchering
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2011, 03:27:45 pm »

From what it says, it is a "Cavy Boar" corpse, though I don't know is Cavy is a typo or something.
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Re: Butchering
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2011, 03:32:33 pm »

Cavy is another name for Guinea Pig.  Technically Cavy refers to the wild creature that Guinea Pigs were domesticated from.

Cavies are well below the minimum size to give anything but a skull when butchered.  You can't butcher wild cavy corpses.
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Re: Butchering
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2011, 03:39:32 pm »

Ah, ok. Thank you for clearing that up. When I saw "boar" I thought a pig with tusks, not a small little creature. No wonder my wrestlers were able to take it down so fast :)
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Re: Butchering
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2011, 08:36:54 pm »

I think that when stray, tame animals die of certain things they're impossible to butcher. Getting killed by enemies allows them to be butchered, and I think old age, thirst, and starvation make it unbutcherable. Just haul the corpse off to the refuse stockpile, you probably won't get any meat from it.
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Re: Butchering
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2011, 09:04:52 pm »

I've never seen tame animals that got killed some way or other get butchered from corpse, they have to be done 'live'.
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2011, 09:05:59 pm »

I think that when stray, tame animals die of certain things they're impossible to butcher. Getting killed by enemies allows them to be butchered, and I think old age, thirst, and starvation make it unbutcherable. Just haul the corpse off to the refuse stockpile, you probably won't get any meat from it.
If by "certain things" you mean "anything besides getting slaughtered in a butcher's workshop," this statement is completely accurate. Tame animals that are killed by enemies are not butcherable, nor can they be butchered if they die of age, thirst, starvation, drowning, heat, necrosis, or any other means. Dead tame animals cannot be butchered.
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Re: Butchering
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2011, 09:09:12 pm »

Alright, I am having some problems with trying to butcher an animal I killed. I don't know why my butcher won't butcher it. I have:
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Completely off topic, being in the middle of listening to a recording of today's Just A Minute, that sentence made me want to press the buzzer.  (And the subject is "Butchering", so it isn't the allowable repeat of "what's on the card"... :) )

...a small little creature. No wonder my wrestlers were able to take it down so fast :)
I get various humorous images from that description...

I was actually going to support the common consensus (i.e. it's best overall to mark for slaughter your own creatures in danger of dying from 'natural' causes, and I've never been that efficient with hunting but technically if you can get a non-rotten hunted corpse back it should get processed to much the same product as a tame version killed at the butcher's shop), but it'd be so ninjaed that I don't think I'll bother expounding so, after all.
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Re: Butchering
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2011, 09:59:43 pm »

set dwarfs to gather refuse from outside that seems to help (oh woops srry dint see it was solved)
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Re: Butchering
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2011, 10:04:35 pm »

I think that when stray, tame animals die of certain things they're impossible to butcher. Getting killed by enemies allows them to be butchered, and I think old age, thirst, and starvation make it unbutcherable. Just haul the corpse off to the refuse stockpile, you probably won't get any meat from it.
If by "certain things" you mean "anything besides getting slaughtered in a butcher's workshop," this statement is completely accurate. Tame animals that are killed by enemies are not butcherable, nor can they be butchered if they die of age, thirst, starvation, drowning, heat, necrosis, or any other means. Dead tame animals cannot be butchered.

would this count as bug? or dwarf kosher type practices (dont use for food unless you kil it)
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Re: Butchering
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2011, 10:30:54 pm »

I'm pretty sure it's intentional; that's the way it's been since 40d, at least. Why tame animals can't be butchered after death I don't know.
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