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[Sergius]

I tried pizza tycoon, I got bored when I had to start putting tomatos and shit on pizzas :/ It's like a pizza making simulator.
I've heard good things about it though, and the engine for it was really solid. I might have to try Pizza Tycoon again soon!

But yeah... the biggest problem of detroit is having a lack of information on why things are going wrong/well wrong. Which is annoying because you have a whole screen of statistics to use, and you still cant figure it out.

HINT HINT DEVS, HINT.

Pizza Tycoon's faults is that in many ways it goes into too much detail and doesn't hand hold you or even instruct you an inch (outside the manual... but my original copy didn't have a manual)

Heck if ALL pizzas need tomato sauce then why even make us do it? Heck if it needs crust why even let us place stuff on the crust? I actually had to read the manual as to why my Pizzas were getting low scores.

It was even more boring than that. People only want their *standard* pizzas all the time. They only want your personal pizza recipes when they're craving for sweet/salty/whatever it is the current fad.

[Neonivek]

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I tried pizza tycoon, I got bored when I had to start putting tomatos and shit on pizzas :/ It's like a pizza making simulator.
I've heard good things about it though, and the engine for it was really solid. I might have to try Pizza Tycoon again soon!

But yeah... the biggest problem of detroit is having a lack of information on why things are going wrong/well wrong. Which is annoying because you have a whole screen of statistics to use, and you still cant figure it out.

HINT HINT DEVS, HINT.

Pizza Tycoon's faults is that in many ways it goes into too much detail and doesn't hand hold you or even instruct you an inch (outside the manual... but my original copy didn't have a manual)

Heck if ALL pizzas need tomato sauce then why even make us do it? Heck if it needs crust why even let us place stuff on the crust? I actually had to read the manual as to why my Pizzas were getting low scores.

It was even more boring than that. People only want their *standard* pizzas all the time. They only want your personal pizza recipes when they're craving for sweet/salty/whatever it is the current fad.

Dear holy NO!!! They couldn't break reality just for one sec for the sake of making the game more interesting?

I wonder what side Automation takes.

[Tilla]

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I tried pizza tycoon, I got bored when I had to start putting tomatos and shit on pizzas :/ It's like a pizza making simulator.
I've heard good things about it though, and the engine for it was really solid. I might have to try Pizza Tycoon again soon!

But yeah... the biggest problem of detroit is having a lack of information on why things are going wrong/well wrong. Which is annoying because you have a whole screen of statistics to use, and you still cant figure it out.

HINT HINT DEVS, HINT.

Pizza Tycoon's faults is that in many ways it goes into too much detail and doesn't hand hold you or even instruct you an inch (outside the manual... but my original copy didn't have a manual)

Heck if ALL pizzas need tomato sauce then why even make us do it? Heck if it needs crust why even let us place stuff on the crust? I actually had to read the manual as to why my Pizzas were getting low scores.

It was even more boring than that. People only want their *standard* pizzas all the time. They only want your personal pizza recipes when they're craving for sweet/salty/whatever it is the current fad.

Dear holy NO!!! They couldn't break reality just for one sec for the sake of making the game more interesting?

I wonder what side Automation takes.

It is simmy in some aspects but they also have been keeping in mind what's fun - they built a prototype GearBox editor for instance but found it wasn't really enjoyable so they left that on the cutting room floor in favor of having a bunch of pre-designed options. The engine designer is pretty in-depth though

[daffyflyer]

Demo is out for preordering folk!

[LoSboccacc]

Forumites, could somebody who pre-ordered give us a review of the demo?  Pretty please?   

ok, first and foremost: if you're waiting for the business aspect, then there is nothing for you in the demo (except costs, maybe, and tech level)

about the demo... the engine simulation is pretty convincing. I don't know what you'd want to know from this demo, but I see lot of commitment in making all the small details working together.

technology is mostly based on the 'year' concept; from what I see, each tech comes at a year but the actual year is not an hard limit: it drives costs up and down when using future/past teches or old/new manufacturing plants

the various scenario range from easy and fun to frustratingly impossible; they show a lot of the feature of the engine, but the one that probably are going to be the most used to make decision are smoothness, responsiveness, economy and mean time failure (in megarevs): it seems that their correlation with the engine is pretty solid and if buyers are going to evaluate cars on those parameters, then the game is going to be quite solid.

however, I think that unless you know at least a bit of engines, you're going to have an hard time tuning power, duration and consumption. I wonder how much time in the end game will be passed in the engine designer and how much is going to be spent planning and expanding your business. (but I think I saw you in the aurora thread so I'm sure you'll not be daunted by the complexity)

[EuchreJack]

Complexity is fine.

If anything, my biggest fear is that the business aspect isn't complex enough.

Sounds like fun, all in all.

Unfortunately, they lowered the Pre-order bonus from $10 off to $5 off.  Grr. 

Well, indy games tend not to lower their price, so it might be best to get the price reduction now.

[daffyflyer]

Complexity is fine.

If anything, my biggest fear is that the business aspect isn't complex enough.

Sounds like fun, all in all.

Unfortunately, they lowered the Pre-order bonus from $10 off to $5 off.  Grr. 

Well, indy games tend not to lower their price, so it might be best to get the price reduction now.

The business aspect will be quite deep, possibly not as much as the car design side of things, but fairly indepth in terms of tycoon games.


Pricing model is like minecraft, we reward supporting us early in development, and you pay more as you get a more complete product. The final price will be $30/$40 (normal and special edition)


Any questions, feel free to hit me up here or on our website

[LoSboccacc]

Unfortunately, they lowered the Pre-order bonus from $10 off to $5 off.  Grr. 

crap.

oh well, I'll get a copy for my brothers' pc too

[LoSboccacc]

noooooope.

stil  35$ the forced induction

[daffyflyer]

Yup, price is staying the same until final release now

[Xgamer4]

Congrats on the RPS article.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/04/16/gearing-up-automation-demo/

[daffyflyer]

Proper review - http://racesimcentral.com/2012/04/automations-engine-designer-demo-hands-on-preview/

Also the demo is free now for anyone who wants to try it

[daffyflyer]

http://youtu.be/Wu18K14RaNo




V8s are out now for those of you who have preordered, if not, get preordering at http://automationgame.com

[LoSboccacc]

stuck @work, drooling at gorgeous reflections.

[daffyflyer]

If you haven't checked us out for a while, you're in for a treat, we just released a big update with a bunch of new content, more graphical pretties, and much improved realism/gameplay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnxTh-QdIKA&feature=share&list=PL92B01EFEC6734C0E





The next update after this is turbos, and then we get back to the Car Designer and finally get a demo out of that