Yes Vector, the new player is copying the actions of the guy who knows what he is doing, and being scum is the only reason? Vector has accused both Jim and kilakan of being scum for this argument to work, as the entire thing is based on a relationship between the two. But I see a good chance that a new player wasn't exactly sure of how to g about things, so is copying the actions of somebody who does. This is hardly reasonable evidence of a scumtell.
This is based on a player who has played a BM here before (before asking for replacement) copying the IC's question. It stinks.
It requires no assumption whatsoever that they are in cahoots, simply that one player is riding on the other's coattails.
Well maybe Vector, but I think you give a new player a little too much credit. This looks a lot more like amateur scum hunting then a cunning plot devised by scum master mind.
That is to be determined by the results of the attack. I didn't say I was lynch-prepped, now did I?
At this stage we were all under the impression that one of you wanted to slit out throats, and would be supporting the mafia rather then townies, you were alredy pitted against each other. I had to convince myself that the IC's were my friends in this game (And trusting somebody isn't something you do naturally in one of these games) so I can't blame somebody for being a little paranoid.
Fair.
Wait, let me get this right. Somebody askes what I would do as scum, with no follow up, and they asked a fine and dandy question, somebody else does the same, and it is a 'terrible question' and 'without showing any interest'. This is a massive double standard, and looks to me like Vector cares more about piling something on kilakan then hutning scum.
I've been over this previously in this thread, but I'll say it again: it's not so much about the questions you ask as what you do with them. One question without followup is an RVS that failed. That happens. Asking the same person 6 unrelated questions is an exercise in smokescreening absurdity.
Well that wasn't just a little emotive, don;t you think Vector. This starts out with a comment on the lengh of sentances? Will we start calling scum because somebody used a semi colon when a colon was due? It even ends with a trademark 'hurm', in what has no debating value, it just undermines the integrity of the post on an emotional level.
I'm not going to say how many people I've caught based on things like changing the way they type; often, run-ons fit with fear, and so on, and so forth. It's a valid tactic. But if you want to know, "Pandar, twice" is part of that group of people.
"Hurm" is going to stay. If you don't like it, tough pancakes.
So now their is a relationship between kilakan and myself showing that we are scum, bringing the total to three now? Kilakan, Jim and Myself?
Since when did I say Jim was scum?
Do you know something I don't?
So do you honestly think that in your first post you managed to find all three scum players, Vector?
There's two scum players in this game.
Also, no. I haven't played seriously for nearly a year, now. Good reason why I'm actually playing in a BM.
When a player asked a good question, and another gives a scumm answer, that does not mean the first player must have been conspiring with the other. What sort of half baked reasoning is that?
I suppose I should have said "playing off of Max White's question." I meant "working with the material provided, perhaps unintentionally, by Max White." My mistake.
We hunt scum, expect interesting answers from questions asked by honest people. This looks like nothing more than another attempt to tunnel kilakan.
Is there some reason why you take issue with my attacking him?
I am asking a question of him--the question everyone should be asking everyone. "Are you scum, bucko?" It just has an exclamation point, rather than a question mark, at the end. That's something you should be able to see by now.
So all in all I think Vectors reasoning was total BS, focused waaay too much on one person, and those that have interacted with him (No really, other people play this game too) and didn't ask a single question.
And I think the fact that you totally ignored my FoS on you is pretty annoying. I'd like it if you addressed that at some point, if only by saying "noted."
Your understanding of my reasoning is flawed in places--I have attempted to amend this as necessary. As you may have noticed, there was a bit of a snafu where it became clear that my understanding of the IC setup is different from that of some of the players. Kilakan's questions occurred in a different context than the one I considered obvious. I will consider unvoting him once he has responded to my allegations, as is logical.
That's right, I didn't ask any questions and I largely focused on one person, with a couple of statements on another. Why is that an issue?
Great, didn't want to go into all that, Vector being an IC and all, but you asked.
Poor baby.
I have been over this post. Just about every point is BS. This is the single most scummy act the entire game. It was all about incriminating Kilakan without a second glace at anybody else, apart from when it supported her argument against Kilakan. Scum trying to tunnel a new player into a mislynch first day.
Then why aren't you voting me?
Who was that FoS on, anyway? Was it levied for stuff Kilakan did? I'd go back and check to see what I actually wrote.
Also, no, I am not tunneling for a mislynch
I'm making material. Going, as always, for
Zugzwang.
Vector ignoring he's mistakes.
Unvote MaxWhite
kikilan What did you think of vectors nice little tutorial on mafia, and particularly his tone on suggesting that you might be of an alignment that wants to hinder the town(scum basically)?
Use fewer weasel words.
@every one who is not an IC or kikilan:(can i direct a question at everyone?) on a scale of one to ten how suspicious would you be of someone who was trying to get one of our valuble ICs lynched?
You can direct a question at everyone, with the danger that I might also answer it.
I would be suspicious of:
People trying to lynch an IC on good evidence: 0
People getting excited about IC-lynching just because "one might be scum and they'd be dangerous and it's better to lynch first, scumhunt never:" 5-8, depending on time and circumstance.
@ kikilan which of the IC's are, you most suspicious of being scum since scum Ics seem to be a major concern for you, if it is a major concern.
Too passive. You're leaving holes in your arguments for people to escape through.
Also, you generally don't have to justify your reason for asking a questions. Some questions, yes. Most questions, no.
It's hardly been 24 hours since game start. The fact that I don't mention every little scummy thing or attack every bad behavior head-on with full-power wrist-slapping does not mean that I'm not paying attention to it.