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"The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« on: June 20, 2011, 05:53:02 am »

Is that normal?  I thought only pointy weapons got stuck.  Granted, it was just against a buzzard, but wow.
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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2011, 06:20:18 am »

Any weapon can jam into body parts. Make sure to unforbid the weapon afterward. Dwarves have a strange behavior at the moment that causes them to ditch equipment that got stuck into an enemy.

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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2011, 08:33:27 am »

Any weapon can jam into body parts. Make sure to unforbid the weapon afterward. Dwarves have a strange behavior at the moment that causes them to ditch equipment that got stuck into an enemy.

I haven't noticed this. I have, however, noticed that weapons stuck in an enemy becomes (f)orbidden and the dwarf pulls it out and uses it anyway. He's like "man fuck you, you can't tell me what to wield or not to wield!"
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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2011, 09:54:41 am »

I've had lots of dwarves running around carrying "forbidden" weapons, presumably after they've become lodged in body parts.  They definitely still wield them as weapons though, forbidden or not.
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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2011, 09:56:50 am »

It's (weapons being forbidden after stuck-in) because the weapon becomes enemies property once it is lodged into them. DF treats it as if your opponent was in possession of your weapon, for some reason.
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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2011, 09:58:16 am »

Okay, that makes sense.  Why are they (the dwarves) still able to use a forbidden piece of equipment?  Is it because it's already equipped?  Bug?
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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2011, 10:06:47 am »

I'm pretty sure they're still holding on the weapon if they can still use it, I've seen some of my melee dwarves running around with forbiddened weapons, and some unarmed with weapons in the field. I think it's the process of getting 'stuck' marks them as forbiddened, regardless of if they're holding it or not.

Military and civilians can keep forbiddened outfit on if it's equipped -before- being forbiddened.
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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2011, 10:16:42 am »

So THATS why I always find forbidden weapons in the stocks menu after claiming everything in the battlefield. I was thinking I missed some.}

Also, newly drafted dwarves will pick up and use weapons and equipment designated to be melted, which is irritating when you find out they have been training with copper axes and silver scourges. I recomend always changing the "individual choice, weapon" to a more specific weapon type.
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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2011, 10:48:10 am »

So THATS why I always find forbidden weapons in the stocks menu after claiming everything in the battlefield. I was thinking I missed some.}

So the dark brown Fs in the stocks menu are the forbidden weapons currently in use by some dwarf, whereas the yellow Fs are the objects I actually decided to forbid?

It's right to unforbid the dark-brown-F objects in the stocks menu?
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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2011, 10:55:25 am »


So the dark brown Fs in the stocks menu are the forbidden weapons currently in use by some dwarf, whereas the yellow Fs are the objects I actually decided to forbid?

It's right to unforbid the dark-brown-F objects in the stocks menu?

the dark brown ones just means that -some- of the thing in the position are forbiddened, the yellow one means that every item of that type is forbiddened. As for it being right, tis up to your experience and the specific objects.
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2011, 01:45:21 pm »

Is that normal?  I thought only pointy weapons got stuck.  Granted, it was just against a buzzard, but wow.
I take it you've not played with adventure mode.

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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2011, 02:03:20 pm »

Whan i can do when my weapon stuck in somebody? I ask how it is in adventure mod. I know about (i), weapon, gain po*. Can i do something else? How?
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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2011, 02:47:16 pm »

attack them it will get stuck on its own
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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2011, 02:59:21 pm »

I think the question was what you can do once they're stuck. You can regain posession with I, twist the weapon in the wound with auto-attacks (though I'm not sure it does anything in the current version), or move away to regain posession.
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Re: "The silver war hammer has lodged firmly in the skull"
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2011, 03:08:17 pm »

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