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[Leafsnail]

It's a slippery slope to grant any special provisions to any particular group of people (married, gay, straight, black, white, asian, pacific islander...) so why do we keep doing it?

You're saying that your own argument is a fallacy?  Well, at least you're open about it, I guess.

[Andir]

It's a slippery slope to grant any special provisions to any particular group of people (married, gay, straight, black, white, asian, pacific islander...) so why do we keep doing it?

You're saying that your own argument is a fallacy?  Well, at least you're open about it, I guess.

I'm not following.  I don't believe I ever said that.  I'm pretty sure I argued against all kinds of special provisions (marriage, equal opportunity, etc...)

Edit:  I did argue for continuation of the electoral college to allow people to continue their livelihood without being squashed by the ignorance of the populace so I guess you have that on me.

[Leafsnail]

The slippery slope argument is a fallacy.

You're saying that we shouldn't do anything because it's a slippery slope.

[Andir]

The slippery slope argument is a fallacy.

You're saying that we shouldn't do anything because it's a slippery slope.

Semantics... I'll take it you know what I meant and are just being difficult.

[Leafsnail]

I know that you are making a fallacious argument and you accidentally labelled it as fallacious.

It's still fallacious unless you can justify why one thing leads on to another in that way.

[Nadaka]

I will be voting Obama. Cause, even if the democrats are meek little wishy washy explicative, they are still the lesser of two evils.

Fuck you first past the post. Fuck you.

This is how I feel. Except that Obama is a piss poor democrat. I would rather vote for Hillary Clinton, but I also don't like a lot of her stances.

[PTTG??]

Obama will win big this election. This is certain. Voting for him is a forgone conclusion that will make no difference.

However, voting for a third party- ANY third party- sends a message. It says that you aren't happy with the lesser of two evils. It tells the democrats they actually have to be work in your interests, and the republicans that you won't let them brand the moderate conservative Democrats as extremist liberals.

The democrats will be watching the polls this cycle, but not because they think they will loose- they know they will win, and they are right. The are watching to see who doesn't vote for them. Show them.

[Nadaka]

Living in florida, I have to vote democrat because we are a swing state with a fairly large number of electors. Back in Mississippi I could vote independent all day and it would never matter.

[Leafsnail]

Obama will win big this election. This is certain. Voting for him is a forgone conclusion that will make no difference.

Yeah, Obama will win even if people don't vote for him.  I don't know why anyone would bother.

[nenjin]

I'm not putting any bets on it. To us he looks better than any other candidate in the field. But never underestimate teh voting power of the undecideds. The one thing carrying him right now with the average voter, IMO, is his charisma relative to Conservative offerings. If even half of the criticisms lodged against him stuck in the minds of the average voter, his chances would be far less certain than they feel right now.

Luckily for him, I guess, the Republicans haven't found a message that works with anyone except their base. The birther debate, socialism and refusing to do anything that includes a tax increase has pretty much squandered their political capital over the last two years.

[Aklyon]

I'm going to change what I said before. Not strictly third party, but whoever is the most against the S.968 bill or whoever can prove they are.

[nenjin]

Looks like it's up for voting next. Al Franken is a co-sponsor on that thing? I guess you can take the actor out of Hollywood, but you can't take Hollywood out of the actor and all the industry connections that come with it. I hope whoever runs in his district stomps his ass back into obscurity. I used to think he actually gave a shit about checking corporate interests.

You know all the haxx BS is just going to be used as fuel to ram this thing through Congress too, even though the hacks have almost nothing to do with IP infractions. I have the feeling Congress is going to pass some massive legislation for the protection of US interests online within the next two years, above and beyond what we've already heard about Protect IP.

[Aklyon]

voting? It was being held by Wyden the last I checked.

[Strife26]

Man, I really dislike Mr. Franken.

Thinking aboot it, I cahn actually vote this time round. I should probably get around to doing that, shouldn't I?

[Aqizzar]

Man, I really dislike Mr. Franken.

Any particular reason?  I hear people badmouth the guy for no specific reason besides the actor thing, but you're actually a constituent, so you probably know something.

I will say that I like Franken, because the very first bill he introduced in the Senate was a law to forbid the U.S. from hiring private contractors whose employee contracts include provisions whereby an employee cannot sue the company if raped by another employee.  This was after exactly such an instance came up (Blackwater, natch), which is exactly what I think legislators are there for.  It passed by the way, but I've never read up on how well its been pursued.  That it didn't pass unanimously is a another matter entirely.