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[The-Moon]

# = Wall
R = River
B = Bridge
O = Open Air
. = Floor

code:

1st level
#RRRR#
#RRRR#
#RRRR#
#RRRR#
#RRRR#
#RRRR#
2nd level
#OOOO#
#OOOO####
.BBBB....
.BBBB....
#OOOO####
#OOOO#

My dwarfs are walking across the bridge and are stopping there jobs because of the fish down below, even tho theres no way that they can hurt the dwarfs, unless of course they fall in the water.

I would have to say this is a bug, or something over looked.

[God of Toast]

This was reported quite a few versions ago.

The reason for this is because of the fact that the fish aren't vermin, I believe. Also, for some odd reason they can stare at a dwarf through 5 layers of rock and stop them in their tracks.

[ February 08, 2008: Message edited by: God of Toast ]

[Puzzlemaker]

Are... Are you sure they wont be able to get to your dwarves?

Fish are DEADLY man... DEADLY...

[The-Moon]

Is it planned to fix this at some point?

[Greiger]

I believe creatures can attack stuff diagonally one z level up if theres nothing in the way, so there is some danger.(How else do carp kill fisherman?)  But there has been multiple reports of stuff that has no way of harming you causing yer dwarves to wet thier pants.  

I would be very surprised if something isn't done about it in the future.  But it does seem like it would be a pain to code without forcing a(slow) pathing check every time it's seen.

[apache1990]

The fish CAN reach you if you're only one level over the water, because you're only one square away.

i.e.

code:

...--@----...
###~~f~~~~###

(side view, @ dwarf, f fish, # wall, . surface ground, - bridge)

To be safe, you need to be two levels up:

code:

...--@----...
###       ###
###~~f~~~~###

[The-Moon]

If the fish can reach me, then i guess the real bug is fixing it so fish can not attack through bridges.

[apache1990]

(Note: fish is not under bridge, it is beside it, and the dwarf is at the edge.)

[The-Moon]

Now that i'm checking.

code:

side veiw
#BBBB#
#OOOO#
#RRRR#

I do have my bridge raised one level above the water.

[ February 08, 2008: Message edited by: The-Moon ]

[apache1990]

Ok, then this is an example of the 'afraid of what could never possibly reach me' bug.

[Chariot]

dwarves will be scared away by any creature that could possibly get to them, or that they could get to, in any way. that includes falling.

if theres no possible way, even by falling, for them to reach each other, it wont scare them

[The-Moon]

quote:Originally posted by Chariot:
<STRONG>dwarves will be scared away by any creature that could possibly get to them, or that they could get to, in any way. that includes falling.

if theres no possible way, even by falling, for them to reach each other, it wont scare them</STRONG>

Well then if thats the case. The dwarfs should not be scared unless they fall. If they fall then they need to be scared and they need to get out of the water.

Dwarfs should only be scared if something can get to them.

As long as its not programed to make them walk off the bridge. Then they shouldnt be scared of whats down there, unless whats down there has a missle attack, or is tall enough to reach them.

Another Fucked bug.

My people go into the water, and never climb back out.

I lost a wood cutter because of that already.

Thats a really bad bug which needs to get fixed asap.

[numerobis]

They also get scared of naked mole rats on the other side of a moat.

I'm not entirely sure it's bad behaviour though.  Have you ever *seen* a carp?  Those things are pretty terrifying.

[numerobis]

quote:Originally posted by The-Moon:
<STRONG>My people go into the water, and never climb back out.  I lost a wood cutter because of that already.</STRONG>

Let me guess: in the spring?

When I've seen this, it's that they're walking on ice and fall in when the ice melts all at once.  Fixes: (1) dig ramps into every single body of water, or (2) 'd' 'o' 'r' on every single lake so they far prefer going taking the long way around the lake.

[Puzzlemaker]

quote:Originally posted by benoit.hudson:
<STRONG>They also get scared of naked mole rats on the other side of a moat.

I'm not entirely sure it's bad behaviour though.  Have you ever *seen* a carp?  Those things are pretty terrifying.</STRONG>