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Author Topic: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia (P17 The End)  (Read 53089 times)

KaguroDraven

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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2011, 04:05:10 pm »

Esspecially the Pontus, have you ever seen what happens if they manage to get lucky against Egypt? I've seen them take over the entire south and eastern parts of the map before I hit them.
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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2011, 04:43:31 pm »

Esspecially the Pontus, have you ever seen what happens if they manage to get lucky against Egypt? I've seen them take over the entire south and eastern parts of the map before I hit them.
I thought they were always like that.
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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2011, 04:54:47 pm »

Really? In most of my games the Seculoids and Egyptions swallow Pontus up.
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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2011, 04:59:52 pm »

The Seculoids always die first in my games >.>
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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2011, 05:34:30 pm »

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I would say go north sheerly to deal with the Scythians. If you leave them for too long they start going mongol horde on you....

Scythians are a bad idea for an initial focus, dear viewers. Their cities are too far away. Your army needs ~five turns to get to the enemy. Their attacks can be easily stopped with a ranged garrison at Kotais. Eventually a merc spearmen + all archer band guarding the north bridge. Guarding Scythian lands is a pain too, you have to cover bridges. Three of them while at that. And..

well..

Unless you fight the roman empire already, no huge armies will advance through Scythia.
And once you fight roman empire, Scythian lands are too painful to defend. Not to mention the capital distance. Very large provinces are overrated.

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Esspecially the Pontus, have you ever seen what happens if they manage to get lucky against Egypt?

Yeah, i had fought a super-Pontus as Greeks once. Greeks are GREEKS though. My Greek force layout looked like this
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Needless to say only siege weapons could ever breach our wall of spears, arrows, jevelins and general cavalry. As Armenia things will be tougher.. But we have them horses and them arrows.

I'm going to sack the Parthian city that is in our view, and then advance my strike force to take Susa (slightly to the south, very, very strong defensive position). Afterwards, we're doing what the next vote results are! Pontus? Seleucid? Egypt? New poll has been added!

Attacking Pontus is quite easy, and we can take the entire peninsula eventually. This will boost our naval trade and not stretch us out at all. This will however cause Greece and in time Seleucid, Macedonian and Brutii to zerg us. It's the best possible move in my opinion. If we build up a nice navy, we can stop the amphibious strikes, and with Kotais securing north side, focus ENTIRELY on south.

Attacking Seleucid is easy in the beginning. Seleucids fight the Egyptians, and sometimes even Pontus. Having a third foe sack their cities will cause them to crumble. This will however stretch our lines, and taunt Pontus, Egypt and Numidians to attack us. We'd have to defend many cities at once. At this moment it would be unwise.

Attacking Egypt is a gamble. Egypt can be taken out early if you team up with Seleucids. The battle will be bloody, and we can not afford to have any casualties, but should we succeed, the strongest enemy in the region would be wiped out..
We would however be extremely stretched out, and half the world would declare war on us the second Egypt is no more.
Also.. If you push Egypt too hard, it's possible that they declare ceasefire with Seleucids. Which is followed by Seleucids attacking Armenia.. This can go incredibly good. This can go incredibly bad. It's a gamble, and diplomacy in the game is borked and unpredictable.

Attacking Scythia is a bad idea. Our growth will be halted for many turns, while our foes build up. Scythian lands are simply too large with no cities whatsoever. Scythians are also a pathetic foe that can be taken out just with our stone-gatherers later on.

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« Last Edit: June 19, 2011, 05:57:11 pm by Stworca »
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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2011, 06:55:46 pm »

I totally support attackng Egypt for the awesomeness of it, but I'd understand if you don't do it. Egypt is hell.
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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2011, 07:39:57 pm »

After Parthia + rebel cities in the area are wiped, I'd go for Pontus, yes. Then nab some of the Greek Coast.
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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2011, 07:48:13 pm »

Why is Egypt so feared? I ass-raped them while defending my greek cities with Hoplites. Never lost a single man >.>
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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2011, 07:51:17 pm »

If you didn't notice, we're Armenians.
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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2011, 07:52:33 pm »

Also Hoplites are RAPE in cities or anything with closed quarters where it's hard to flank them
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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2011, 04:08:30 am »

Why is Egypt so feared? I ass-raped them while defending my greek cities with Hoplites. Never lost a single man >.>

Egypt armies are weak, but there are many of them. We can not field many enough stacks to stop their advance to our cities. You stop Egypt 5 stacks with our uber Armenian army.. another 5 stacks sack your cities  :P
Also, when fighting 2000 egyptians one or two Armenians CAN die.. by total accident..

Attacking Egypt also may lead to war with Seleu WHILE fighting Egypt. Nobody fears Egypt armies, it goes deeper! (That's what she said..?)

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Also Hoplites are RAPE in cities or anything with closed quarters where it's hard to flank them

One unit of hoplites standing in the gateway of rank 4 (or 5) walls = entire army wiped out by oil and spears. On the other hand i've seen enemy general unit rout a 6-unit-deep hoplite wall by charging through the spears..

But this is all the song of the future.. For now we're after Parthans!
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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2011, 04:26:07 am »

I feel sad taking on the Parthan, except for they silly purple dress, they could really be Armenian.

Also, once our homeland is almost secure, can we do something grandiose like loading the heir and a few stacks on boats and settle in Spain?
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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2011, 05:38:08 am »

We'd need a port to start building boats, then build a rather big fleet to survive all rebel navy attacks and after 10+ turns of sailing...
Definitely an option.

Parthans AI start with two cataphracts (super-heavy-cav) and a big family tree (even more super-heavy-cav) and they could indeed be Armenian. We'll not turn their women and children into horse-food. This i swear.
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2011, 09:50:39 am »

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Re: The enemy general was a FOOL! : Rome Total Armenia
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2011, 09:53:26 am »

I. You. What. How?
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