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[clockwork]

You can't breed elephants either, they'll starve. So they best reneweable, unmodded way might very well be 4*100 quarry bush leaves if 20-stacks are possible with a legendary +5 farmer and fertilizer.

Stacks of 25 leaves are possible.

[AutomataKittay]

I did a quick test with fertilizer, it seem to roughly double the yield, instead of four times mentioned in wiki and earlier here. Of course none of my farmers are legendary, so the multiplier might be higher with higher skill?

[Mushroo]

Land of Syrup-Covered-Elephants has just survived its first goblin ambush, our sustainable elephant farm is fully operational, and our cook is legendary status.

Just made this: elephant meat roast (359), value 75,390, ingredients: quarry leaves, elephant meat, elephant meat, elephant meat.

My goal for the coming year is to increase plant stack size, currently they're in the 5-7 range instead of the 20-25 mentioned above. My planter is a Great Grower and I'm using potash to fertilize. I recently discovered the (o)rders, only farmers (h)arvest option. Any other tips for boosting plant stack size?

[AutomataKittay]

Land of Syrup-Covered-Elephants has just survived its first goblin ambush, our sustainable elephant farm is fully operational, and our cook is legendary status.

Just made this: elephant meat roast (359), value 75,390, ingredients: quarry leaves, elephant meat, elephant meat, elephant meat.

My goal for the coming year is to increase plant stack size, currently they're in the 5-7 range instead of the 20-25 mentioned above. My planter is a Great Grower and I'm using potash to fertilize. I recently discovered the (o)rders, only farmers (h)arvest option. Any other tips for boosting plant stack size?

Push your farmers as far into legendary as you can, planting year-around with everything ( and have dedicated stockpiles for each plants so processes can use them up and you don't loses the chance to get seeds )

[Mushroo]

Thanks for the tip, I've just constructed a 10x10 unfertilized plump helmet farm, hopefully that will push my planter into legendary status by year-end (currently master).

Here's another question: ever since I corralled some wild elephants for breeding purposes, I haven't seen a single wild animal. Not one. My hunters are getting rusty! Does capturing wild animals somehow prevent future animal immigration?

[AutomataKittay]

Thanks for the tip, I've just constructed a 10x10 unfertilized plump helmet farm, hopefully that will push my planter into legendary status by year-end (currently master).

Here's another question: ever since I corralled some wild elephants for breeding purposes, I haven't seen a single wild animal. Not one. My hunters are getting rusty! Does capturing wild animals somehow prevent future animal immigration?

I did noticed that if animals are wandering around, there tend to be no more migrating animals coming in. Unless they're all in cages, or wandered off-map already, but that may be random events. Though there're also the probability that you've 'dried up' the spot for a few years to decades, from my understanding of a few long-term forts.

[nanomage]

Thanks for the tip, I've just constructed a 10x10 unfertilized plump helmet farm, hopefully that will push my planter into legendary status by year-end (currently master).

Here's another question: ever since I corralled some wild elephants for breeding purposes, I haven't seen a single wild animal. Not one. My hunters are getting rusty! Does capturing wild animals somehow prevent future animal immigration?

I did noticed that if animals are wandering around, there tend to be no more migrating animals coming in. Unless they're all in cages, or wandered off-map already, but that may be random events. Though there're also the probability that you've 'dried up' the spot for a few years to decades, from my understanding of a few long-term forts.

that's true, your captive elephats are using up the slot for wild animals, so nothing will be generated. The game doesn't know they are captured and treats them as wild.

[Mushroo]

OK, so I will convert my hunters to marksdwarfs and enjoy the fruits of my free-range elephant farm without interruption from badgers, turkeys, etc..

One other question, is there a difference in experience gain between planting vs. harvesting? In other words will my planter level up faster if I choose a) only farmers harvest or b) all dwarfs harvest (assuming my farm plots are big enough that my planter is never idle)?

[nanomage]

OK, so I will convert my hunters to marksdwarfs and enjoy the fruits of my free-range elephant farm without interruption from badgers, turkeys, etc..

One other question, is there a difference in experience gain between planting vs. harvesting? In other words will my planter level up faster if I choose a) only farmers harvest or b) all dwarfs harvest (assuming my farm plots are big enough that my planter is never idle)?

i think they are different labours. Planting trains planter, and gathering trains grower.
Setting only farmers harvest will help your growers trains up faster because they'll have much more work to do and thus much more exp to gain.

[AutomataKittay]

I'm pretty sure that harvesting and planting uses same labours, the only difference is that harvesting isn't skill-dependant, but still gives experience to the planter skill. That and there're a switch to let everyone harvest, or only the farmers ( Definitely suggest only having farmers harvest in this case, it'll add a bit of boost. )

[nanomage]

I'm pretty sure that harvesting and planting uses same labours, the only difference is that harvesting isn't skill-dependant, but still gives experience to the planter skill. That and there're a switch to let everyone harvest, or only the farmers ( Definitely suggest only having farmers harvest in this case, it'll add a bit of boost. )

well harvesting definitely trains grower skill, because that's the skill observed on children. As for planting, i'm not sure planting skill exists  , but if it does it should be trained by planting seeds

[Mushroo]

Hmm, I tried setting "only farmers harvest" but I notice two problems:

1. He is so busy harvesting that he doesn't have time to fertilize the plots, therefore my stack size is reduced
2. He can't harvest everything in time, I don't like wasting food (even though I have a huge surplus)

On the plus side he's up to High Master and climbing, soon he will be legendary!!!

[AutomataKittay]

well harvesting definitely trains grower skill, because that's the skill observed on children. As for planting, i'm not sure planting skill exists  , but if it does it should be trained by planting seeds

My bad, was looking at job title at http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Farming_%28fields%29 
Still, harvesting and planting gives exp to same skill.

[Girlinhat]

If you're training, then stack size doesn't matter.  Use that 10x10 to train him, then deconstruct it when he gets Legendary+5, and swap to your -real- farming fields.  It's like copper weapons for your smith, then swapping to the steel.

[Number4]

letting only farmers farm is a bit risky imo, if he doesn't cope with the workload your food and booze-production is damaged, which led to Fun in one of my earlier forts.