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[WJLIII3]

It seems every few years I run out of sweet pod seeds and start having to order more. I turned off all milling jobs when I realized sugar doesn't leave a seed, does syrup not either? How do I get as many sweet pods seeds as I ahve plump helmet?

EDIT: While I'm asking questions anyway, why do my tame elephants still cause job interruptions all day? I want to butcher them, but instead I just get to watch them rampage around my fortress scaring laborers until the dogs hunt them down.

[Sphalerite]

Milling sweet pods to make sugar *does* leave seeds.  So does producing syrup.  The only action that destroys seeds is cooking, and you can't cook sweet pods.

You may be losing your seeds because seeds left in a field are destroyed when the seasons change, and your dwarves may be planting sweet pod seeds right before the season changes and then losing all the seeds.

As for your elephants - what specific job interruptions are they causing?

[WJLIII3]

Everything they go near, they are treated like hostiles, even when tame.

[Sphalerite]

Did the elephants ever kill, injure or attack any of your dwarves?  If so, they'll always be hostile, even after being tamed.

[WJLIII3]

They are calves, born into captivity to a captured war elephant

[Sphalerite]

Yeah, there's some weirdness with offspring of captured invader mounts.  I have a captured war horse in my fortress who is perfectly tame, but gives birth to foals that are hostile to everything.  It seems to be a bug.

You're better off just slaughtering them, since tame elephants invariable starve to death.  They can't eat fast enough to stay fed.

[Girlinhat]

Coincidentally, offspring of invaders suffers a similar issue, as my short-term elf breeding project showed.

Z stock, Kitchen, make sure you're not cooking sweet pod seeds.

[Mr. Dwarfinton]

Put your elephants in a pasture, as they need to eat.
Actually, better idea. Since elephants will starve out no matter what and end up harming your other pastured animals just butcher them.
Animals who don't get food and start starving will go crazy and begin to attack everything.

[Girlinhat]

No... you're mixing your cause and effects here.  The issue is that you put two animals on a pasture, and they both start eating grass.  When two animals spend too much time near one another, they get fighty.  Eventually the grass depletes, and the animals are pushed into smaller spaces every time grass grows, so they "fight" over small plots of grass, crowding each other trying to eat it, and subsequently fighting.  Animals pastured on stone, or not at all, don't fight when they're hungry.  Only when they get crowded.

[Mr. Dwarfinton]

No... you're mixing your cause and effects here.  The issue is that you put two animals on a pasture, and they both start eating grass.  When two animals spend too much time near one another, they get fighty.  Eventually the grass depletes, and the animals are pushed into smaller spaces every time grass grows, so they "fight" over small plots of grass, crowding each other trying to eat it, and subsequently fighting.  Animals pastured on stone, or not at all, don't fight when they're hungry.  Only when they get crowded.

There'll still starve out no matter what, because elephants can't eat fast enough.
War elephants are awesome, though. Too bad they'll inevitably die from hunger.

[Quietust]

They are calves, born into captivity to a captured war elephant

Captured war elephants are members of the enemy civilization and thus enemies of your own fortress - no matter how much you try to tame them, they will continue to be hostile. It would seem that their offspring inherit civilization membership.

[thijser]

Sweet pods need a time of 500 in order to grow while most other crops need 300 to grow. Thus it's more likely that a field of sweet pods won't be fully grown and thus the seeds will be destoyed.

[Girlinhat]

I've never seen seeds destroyed.  I always have leftover crops in the field, and a few of last season's harvest at the begining of the current season.

[thijser]

Íf I'm correct it only occurs when the game decides to try and plant a different kind of plant on the same tile (trough some science could be done on this subject maybe if I have some extra time on my hands(I'm going to try and write a piece of self changing program for school related purpose)).

[Sphalerite]

Íf I'm correct it only occurs when the game decides to try and plant a different kind of plant on the same tile (trough some science could be done on this subject maybe if I have some extra time on my hands(I'm going to try and write a piece of self changing program for school related purpose)).

That may be the case.  I only ever use fields to plant one kind of crop at a time - if a plant only grows for 2 seasons of the year, I leave it fallow the other two - and I've never had trouble with running out of seeds.