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[Sean Mirrsen]

Yes, you do hold it to your eye. The camera is in this case the player's eye, so the gun's being held up to that. Very few games choose to make the distinction between the two-eyed protagonist and the one-eyed camera, instead the protagonist is mostly treated as if he's a cyclops.

Also, the Prey 2 picture contains a pistol. I'm pretty sure you do hold it like that when aiming.

[Twerty]

Just got this for my birthday. My relatives do try... but their efforts are always so very far off mark.

[Astral]

Heh. Ars doesn't give games bad reviews if they don't deserve it, but:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/reviews/2011/06/duke-nukem-forever-review-barely-playable-unfunny-and-rampantly-offensive.ars

I realize its an opinion, but such a scathing review doesn't sit well with me. I think I'll pass on this one. Especially considering the metacritic scores.

Also, the PR team's reaction is kinda unsettling:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/06/duke-nukems-pr-threatens-to-punish-sites-that-run-negative-reviews.ars

"You talk bad about our game, you don't get to review other games early!"

[Virtz]

Also, the PR team's reaction is kinda unsettling:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/06/duke-nukems-pr-threatens-to-punish-sites-that-run-negative-reviews.ars

"You talk bad about our game, you don't get to review other games early!"

That's how it always goes. Usually goes without saying, even. Stupid of them to make a tweet about it, though.

The review, on the other hand, is kinda stupid. Mostly because he gets offended at stuff that's been there in DN3D. And from what he says he's played DN3D (or at least claims to). So it makes him look like he's got repressed memories or something.

[Haschel]

That review basically took lots of little nitpicking points and blew them out of proportion. It's also a bit funny how much emphasis they put on the misogyny thing. Were they expecting it to be politically correct or what? They also say the shooting is "unplayable, glitchy" but I have seen zero evidence of this. The level design thing is somewhat true, though a bit oversimplified in this case if you ask me. Reviews are generally biased one way or another, but I guess there aren't many ways to find out if the review lines up with your own views.

[Shadowlord]

They also say the shooting is "unplayable, glitchy" but I have seen zero evidence of this.

Are you playing it on the PC or a console? The review, if you read it, specified that it was for the console versions, not the PC version.

[Haschel]

They also say the shooting is "unplayable, glitchy" but I have seen zero evidence of this.

Are you playing it on the PC or a console? The review, if you read it, specified that it was for the console versions, not the PC version.

Guess I missed that part. Playing it on the PC, but it's generally well known that when a game comes out on console there's a very high chance that it will have reasonably major bugs. This has been happening since day one of the Xbox 360 and PS3 era. This happens for PC as well, obviously, but I see it more often on major console releases.

[Angel Of Death]

After seeing the demo of the game, seeing tons of bad reviews and realising this is just generic CoD/Halo style game #1010 I can only think one thing.

Fuck you, Gearbox. Fuck you with a knife.

[lordcooper]

To be fair, they sacked the PR team for that.

Update: 2K Games has officially weighed in on the issue. "2K Games does not endorse the comments made by Jim Redner and we can confirm that The Redner Group no longer represents our products. We have always maintained a mutually-respectful working relationship with the press and do not condone his actions in any way."

[Thexor]

To be fair, they sacked the PR team for that.

Update: 2K Games has officially weighed in on the issue. "2K Games does not endorse the comments made by Jim Redner and we can confirm that The Redner Group no longer represents our products. We have always maintained a mutually-respectful working relationship with the press and do not condone his actions in any way."

And the PR guys were forced to apologize.

[Bdthemag]

God damn you Gearbox, god damn you.

[Dakk]

While I agree that DNF is actualy pretty lame, I feel most reviewers so far have missed the point entirely. Duke games have aways had dick jokes, rampant killing, toilet tier jokers and bimbo women, and its the very reason people enjoyed it. Honestly gameplay wise it wasn't a big deal, it never was, but it was alot more fun at the time then DNF is today.

So far the only review that has actualy reviewed the game itself and not the game's genre or theme is totalbiscuit's WTF is Duke Nukem Forever and the actual review he did 5 hours into the game. He mentions the huge design flaws (really gearbox, several vehicle sections?) and the main problem that steem from what FPSs are today, which is cover based, linear boredom simulators. Duke doesn't even has his mighty boot anymore, and combat is cover based and generic.

If you're going to review it with huge amounts of moralistic crap behind your words, you're doing it wrong. Its like reviewing carmaggedon and saying it was bad not because the mechanics sucked, but because you ran over old ladies and dogs to gain points.

But then again, the guy on that review also wrote a hue article on how adult swim's games have alot of "quality", and how they're the best indie developers. Sooooo.. Yea.

[Shadowlord]

While I agree that DNF is actualy pretty lame, I feel most reviewers so far have missed the point entirely. Duke games have aways had dick jokes, rampant killing, toilet tier jokers and bimbo women, and its the very reason people enjoyed it. Honestly gameplay wise it wasn't a big deal, it never was, but it was alot more fun at the time then DNF is today.

Speaking as someone who enjoyed Duke Nukem 3D but not for the reasons you've listed, I'd like to respond with a "How about no?" The reason I enjoyed it was the fun multiplayer gameplay (The map editor was nice too). The multiplayer was better than many other games that came out years later, even. Laser tripwires, pipebombs, holo-dukes, jetpacks, rocket launchers whose rockets you could actually dodge, and so forth, along with working elevators and such? Not to mention the "gimmick" weapons, the freeze ray and shrink ray. Its multiplayer gameplay put even quake 3 to shame (woop woop machine guns, railguns, plasma guns, shotguns, and rocket launchers. How generic).

[Dakk]

Pherhaps I didnt express it properly. What I meant is that nobody really cared about the dick jokes, women and etc. They were too busy enjoying the game itself, which was ok. Never got to play much of the multiplayer, but the single player was fine, it had secrets, the shrink ray, complex levels, and etc.

DNF failed in all that, yet reviewers everywhere attack it for the whole duke nukem thing, rather then the generic FPSey thing which lacks everything the older games (altough I only really played Duke 3D, so don't hold me to that statement) had.

In duke3d, it was basicaly "hey, look, a softcore porn cinema! I wonder if anything will happen if I blow up the screen, oh hey, aliens!". In DNF its more like "hey, its the gimmick #452, thats actualy pretty ok, let me go do some more cover based shooting, turret/vehicle sections and watch more cutscenes and get this over with".

[Sean Mirrsen]

All they had to do was make DNF a classic shooter. Run and gun with a ludicrously large arsenal, plus all the features of the original.

As it is, I've probably had more fun with Zero Tolerance than DNF. Sad, really.