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How Many Aspergers Do We Have On This Ship?

YO!
- 48 (19%)
I suspect I am, but am not diagnosed as such.
- 32 (12.6%)
NO!
- 164 (64.8%)
I've been diagnosed as such, but suspect I am not.
- 9 (3.6%)

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Re: Asperger's: A Poll.
« Reply #300 on: July 08, 2011, 02:04:34 pm »

Also, it's really depressing when they can program machines to read faces better than you can.

Like I said, this thing would only be able to read faces better than people who can't really read faces at all, and with virtually no subtlety. It would also miss out on pretty much every contextual detail, necessarily: The same smirk can mean something different depending on what it's in response to, or what's being said along with it.
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« Reply #301 on: July 08, 2011, 02:49:10 pm »

It's more like I'd need a machine to remind myself to pay attention to people's faces, because I usually don't check in that much.

Haha.

Ugh.


Dude, I got about 50% on multiple choice facial expression test things as of two years ago.  That's one face, three choices.  I just... yeah...

Blech.
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« Reply #302 on: July 08, 2011, 11:02:55 pm »

Also, it's really depressing when they can program machines to read faces better than you can.

Like I said, this thing would only be able to read faces better than people who can't really read faces at all, and with virtually no subtlety.

I believe that this is the depressing bit.  The machine is not particularly good at the task, and in fact especially unable to detect anything but the most blatant facial cues[1], and yet 'you' (generic) still find that 'your' (ditto) innate human response[2] is far worse than this ramshackle, jury-rigged, Heath Robinson/Rube-Goldberg/Storm Peterson/Chindoku image-processing device which should by all rights have its pattern recognition algorithms be beaten hands down by any half-decent chunk of human wetware.  Or even that possessed by human-habituated canine/feline/porcine/etc creatures...


As an equivalence, there's no shame (sons of Krypton aside) when you can't go faster than a speeding locomotive without some appropriate mechanical assistance, but when your walking pace is slower than a Honda P4 pre-Asimo walking robot[3] you're inevitably going to note that (for one reason or another) you aren't particularly good at something that most humans have absolutely no difficulty with.

Personally, I'm sure that I'm not brilliant at facial expressions, but I get caught up so much with forgetting who people are (or at least the names I should associate with them, but I've also been known to wonder if my own dad sports a moustache or not[4]) that I have other things to concern me.  And, actually, a facial recognition system[5] (as opposed to the more sophisticated expression recognition systems) would be a nice thing to tie into some sort of readout in a glasses-based HUD. :)



[1] As per the bit I just snipped, but probably should have left in.

[2] Which is supposed to be both pre-programmed by an extensively ancestrally trialled pre-processing neural net template that has also been through (potentially) several decades of a pretty vigorous and fairly continuous training regime.

[3] Making the distinction because while personally I can walk as fast as a 2005-version Asimo can run, the Asimos are between 1/2 and 2/3 my height, so scale comes into play.  There can't be more than half a head difference between me and the best of the P-series, which I could beat in a 100 yard dash even if I took time to do a Minister Of Silly Walks impression (with spins and reversals) on the way down the track.

[4] He does.  I think.  I'm pretty sure about that, but now I mention it, I have a niggling doubt.
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« Reply #303 on: July 09, 2011, 07:26:05 pm »

I assume this is the right place to ask.

Some young men drove past me in a car and barked at me (in the dog sense, not the drill sergeant sense).  Can someone give me an idea of what this is supposed to mean/can mean?  My parents are being useless.  Oh, and please be as honest as possible.  I'm mostly annoyed because I don't know what's going on.
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« Reply #304 on: July 09, 2011, 07:29:12 pm »

I assume this is the right place to ask.

Some young men drove past me in a car and barked at me (in the dog sense, not the drill sergeant sense).  Can someone give me an idea of what this is supposed to mean/can mean?  My parents are being useless.  Oh, and please be as honest as possible.  I'm mostly annoyed because I don't know what's going on.

It means they are jerks.
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« Reply #305 on: July 09, 2011, 07:38:16 pm »

I assume this is the right place to ask.

Some young men drove past me in a car and barked at me (in the dog sense, not the drill sergeant sense).  Can someone give me an idea of what this is supposed to mean/can mean?  My parents are being useless.  Oh, and please be as honest as possible.  I'm mostly annoyed because I don't know what's going on.
Either they're completely bonkers or you have discovered a new mating ritual among the native people of your area.


On a more serious note, I'm as stumped as you are. The only reason I could imagine for anyone barking is, well, indeed as an outing of sexual affection among overconfident young men, but on the other hand you don't fit the typical role of bimbo, so I doubt that's it.
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« Reply #306 on: July 09, 2011, 07:45:52 pm »

Barking? Probably just guys out being stupid, unless it is a local thing.
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« Reply #307 on: July 09, 2011, 07:46:29 pm »

"Just guys out being stupid?"

Is this a hobby?

I am so confused D:
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« Reply #308 on: July 09, 2011, 07:49:45 pm »

"Just guys out being stupid?"

Is this a hobby?

I am so confused D:
There are more weird hobbies then you could wrap your head around even if you'd spread it to a molecular layer... I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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« Reply #309 on: July 09, 2011, 08:11:23 pm »

I've seen it on TV a couple of times.  It seems to be like cat calling (only emulating excited dogs rather than... whatever makes catcalls).
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« Reply #310 on: July 09, 2011, 08:21:39 pm »

Yeah, they were just trying to get a reaction out of you with crude behavior.  Think female dog... barking... objectification...  Not an honest expression of affection.  Just crude humor and posturing at someone else's expense.
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« Reply #311 on: July 09, 2011, 08:23:51 pm »

Oh, it's another way to call someone a bitch?

Thank you!  That really helps :D  Haha, I don't know why I didn't put two and two together on that one.
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« Reply #312 on: July 09, 2011, 08:28:42 pm »

Yeah, I think so.  Not in the "You're such a bitch" sense so much as in the "Look at them bitches and hos" sense.  They're having fun promoting themselves by objectifying and devalueing others in a dumb male bonding thing.  "We're such badass pimps rolling around town hollering at bitches!  Everybody look at us being obnoxiously hetero and demeaning to women!  Seriously, please look at us!  Dominant culture ftw, we're totally part of it!  Whoooo!"

Make sense?
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« Reply #313 on: July 09, 2011, 08:54:08 pm »

Yes.  You win the social situation-explanation internets.  You are the bestest <3
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« Reply #314 on: July 09, 2011, 08:59:41 pm »

SalmonGod wrapped it up perfectly  :D. There are worse things than barking, probably. Around here people do speed-hating. You grab a few friends, toss back some alcohol, and yell at people while driving, trying to stick to a [adjective][noun],[explicative] format. I've heard "Swell gardening, douche bag", "Lovely lawn, asshole", and many other stupid ones.
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