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Re: The Weiner thread
« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2011, 07:15:07 pm »

Given the number of women who are raped, molested, solicited for sex by strangers, etc. around here, I'm prone to consider a zero tolerance policy.  Allowing those who commit sexual crimes to remain in power informs the rest of us that it's okay, and lauded by society as long as you do a good enough job elsewhere.
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« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2011, 07:35:24 pm »

You make a good point, there. Incidentally, is it a crime, legally speaking? Even if I maintain my, "Don't fire him for his personal lifestyle", I wouldn't have a problem with him suffering the appropriate sentence for actions he does take as part of that lifestyle, and presumably he wouldn't be able to keep working during it. I probably can't maintain it as applicable to this particular situation, though I do maintain that as a general rule, the fidelity of a politician in marriage isn't relevant to their job and the appropriate punishment is a divorce. It's the unsolicited part here that does it, though. Not really acceptable.
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« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2011, 07:41:52 pm »

I'm kind of fuzzy on the law, but this is about the same (in certain dimensions) as flashing someone.  It may or may not be, strictly speaking, illegal--but it's one of those things where I sort of think it should be.

(Of course, there's another bunch of muck about maintaining the freedom of the internet, which I will say does not apply here because he had his real name and identity fully attached to everything)

This isn't a lifestyle thing.  Sex with consenting animals?  Polyamory?  Bisexuality?  A history of mental illness that still leaves him able to do his job?  Unruly children?  I don't really give much of a crap.  That's his personal business.

The minute he starts sending random women photos of his junk is when I start getting pissed.
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« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2011, 07:44:52 pm »

But not the vomitoriums

A vomitorium is the part of a theatre where the performers can walk between the audience seats to get on stage.
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« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2011, 07:47:58 pm »

It's the unsolicited part here that does it, though. Not really acceptable.

The minute he starts sending random women photos of his junk is when I start getting pissed.

Where is this coming from? I can't find anything that says he sent pictures to random people.
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« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2011, 07:53:10 pm »

It's the unsolicited part here that does it, though. Not really acceptable.

The minute he starts sending random women photos of his junk is when I start getting pissed.

Where is this coming from? I can't find anything that says he sent pictures to random people.
It isn't random people, but in this case 'unsolicited' means sending them w/o a request. From a quick look at a story on it, he sent them to people he was having online chats with about topics which were mostly tangential. Kinda like if, after posting this, I were to send photos of mine to you; completely unacceptable behavior from anyone.
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« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2011, 08:08:58 pm »

It isn't random people, but in this case 'unsolicited' means sending them w/o a request. From a quick look at a story on it, he sent them to people he was having online chats with about topics which were mostly tangential. Kinda like if, after posting this, I were to send photos of mine to you; completely unacceptable behavior from anyone.

This is the part that makes me suspicious. I'd like to know what conversation led to "Oh, btw, here's the ole frank n beans!".
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« Reply #67 on: June 09, 2011, 08:11:31 pm »

Suspicious of the women, as usual?

This should at least soften your suspicion a little.
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« Reply #68 on: June 09, 2011, 08:41:05 pm »

A philanderer of the highest order, then. Not unlike JFK and LBJ, I'd note. Clinton was a purist compared to JFK using the secret service as early warning for his wife coming home.
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« Reply #69 on: June 09, 2011, 08:46:44 pm »

Suspicious of the women, as usual?

This should at least soften your suspicion a little.

Suspicious of missing information. Like, say, this:

But Ms. Cordova would not make all of her interaction with him available for review.

Or this:

Meagan Broussard, a 26-year-old Texan, said her flirtatious exchange with the congressman started with the single word — “Hottttt” — that she posted on his Facebook wall in April, after watching him speak.

So we have serious issues without all the data, and a subtle, sexually charged overture in the very first instance of communication. Yes, that looks a bit suspicious.  Does that make it right? Nope. Does it look like not all the information has been made available for a fair assessment? Yep.

Suspicious of men, as usual?
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« Reply #70 on: June 09, 2011, 08:55:24 pm »

*shrug*

Tired of reading through all the woman-blaming/questioning on sexual cases.  Multiple women, likely not in contact with each other, stated that they were surprised to receive dick pics.  Given that these women were also his supporters, they don't have a motive.
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« Reply #71 on: June 09, 2011, 09:01:51 pm »

Suspicious of missing information. Like, say, this:

Suspicious of men, as usual?

This is what I was gonna say before I scrolled down. How did it get from "suspicious" to "suspicious of the women"?
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« Reply #72 on: June 09, 2011, 09:20:03 pm »

But not the vomitoriums

A vomitorium is the part of a theatre where the performers can walk between the audience seats to get on stage.

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« Reply #73 on: June 09, 2011, 09:25:26 pm »

*shrug*

Tired of reading through all the woman-blaming/questioning on sexual cases.  Multiple women, likely not in contact with each other, stated that they were surprised to receive dick pics.  Given that these women were also his supporters, they don't have a motive.

Cool. Where did I blame the involved women in this thread? For that matter, where have I blamed women for being victims of harassment anywhere?
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« Reply #74 on: June 09, 2011, 09:29:51 pm »

I should clarify that I meant "as is usual from society," rather than "as is usual from you."  Reading your words made it look like a "as usual, we can't trust the female testimony" mess.  I am probably also being affected by depression, which is not your fault, but is clouding my vision at the moment.

I apologize for the confusion.
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