Some people would not be uncomfortable with other random people around them being naked. Social expectations regarding nudity vary a lot from person to person and culture to culture. You can't really expect there to be no expectations at all.
People in public make me uncomfortable pretty much constantly and all the time. I don't see how that matters? Unless they're intentionally antagonising me, that's my problem, not theirs.
"Disgust" would mean I cared enough to be disgusted.
Considering you went out of your way to express your disgust several posts ago, to the point of insulting those who choose to forgo clothing in their own time, I doubt this is the case. Maybe you weren't disgusted then - I suppose you might simply have been repulsed, instead.
Speaking of regularly, I deal with criminals on a daily basis and sometimes am a little scared of them. Forget "mandatory," they will ruin it with just "optional," I think. So first you're going to let the criminals be all naked in public. Then there's other people (read: potential marks/victims) who are also naked by choice. These come into the same place.... Hilarity will not ensue.
I honestly don't think the statistics don't really support you here, though. The people likely to rape someone are going to rape them whether they are naked or wearing a miniskirt, as far as the numbers I've seen say. Though it's been a while since the last time I looked into this issue - do you have any evidence this is actually something that is likely to happen?
Most, if not all places that are clothing optional, where you sit on things (couches, stools, bars, that kind of thing) have a mandatory rule of putting a towel under your butt. It's a simple fix.
Obviously the happy medium is capes. All the function, none of the confinement! 
Meh? Whyfor art thou mad at me?
I said a lot of things, but I never insulted nudists who, "choose to forgo clothing in their own time." I t'was neither disgusted, nor repulsed. Let's look at the instant replay
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Not wearing clothes? Think of the poor sheep, cotton plants and um... petroleum byproducts... you're putting out of work?
The idea sounds workable in theory until you factor in weather, the unfortunate fact that most people are horny, and of course the seemingly all too true rule that most of the nudists I've seen are the people nobody wants to see naked. I already see wayyyy too many jumbo muffin tops. Yes, the problem unfortunately applies to guys as well. [shiver]. No thank you.
I said weather makes nudity impractical. True. I said most people are horny. Sadly, also true. I also said that most nudists I've seen are ones nobody wants to see naked (notice the "I've seen" and the implied that "other people" don't wanna see naked. This relates solely to my personal experiences, which have not been good.
The idea sounds workable in theory until you factor in weather, the unfortunate fact that most people are horny, and of course the seemingly all too true rule that most of the nudists I've seen are the people nobody wants to see naked. I already see wayyyy too many jumbo muffin tops. Yes, the problem unfortunately applies to guys as well. [shiver]. No thank you.
I'll just point out that the bolded part would go away once the novelty wears off.
Remember, bare ankles was once considered risque. Stop hiding things and they'll stop being titillating.
As for stuff being gross... yeah well I see people with gross features all the time. Unwashed hair, etc. I'm not going to tell them to cover up.
While I'm not really in favor of this, because she doesn't exactly look happy:
Pictured: "cruelty-full 'cosmetics'"
I don't really think we need to go too far in the other direction and just have naked people running around. There are things you can't help, or that it wouldn't really get anything out of trying to and then there's putting some freaking pants on. [shrugs] The stores are all hurting for money now. Please go buy some pants.
I get what you're trying to say about societal expectations being relaxed and the taboo lessening Kaijyuu, but really? How long's that gonna take and will we be able to survive the [cough] "adjustment process" (the unprintable crap people will do until the novelty wears off) [cough] ? Not to mention the large dose of awkward due to old dogs that are unwilling to be taught new tricks.... The visit to grandma's house just got even MORE uncomfortable.
and of course the seemingly all too true rule that most of the nudists I've seen are the people nobody wants to see naked. I already see wayyyy too many jumbo muffin tops. Yes, the problem unfortunately applies to guys as well.
Yes, because there's nothing like promoting the culture of body shame, amiright? We should all we're clothes because god knows most of ugly us are ugly sunovabitches underneath, and we shouldn't have to expose others to that sort of grotesquery.
Honestly, I'd expected a little bit better of you.
But then again, we live in the grand old US of A where I've even had people tell me to my face that my feet are disgusting and I shouldn't be allowed out in public without shoes on. (I'm not a nudist, but by god do I hate shoes)
I personally don't give much of a crap about anything to tell you the truth with one exception: how people are going to screw stuff up. I see some bad stuff on a daily basis, so yeah, I'm biased towards looking at it from how people will ruin stuff. It still isn't a point you can completely write off.
In the long run, people might even adjust to it. In the short run, I .... I take it back. I'm fully in favor of this thing that will give me a short term increase in clients, have more people tempted to do criminal thi uh, screw it I'd be like the dentist giving out free sugar and o well.... "Get some cavities kids!" ~ The Dentist.
Honestly though, you know people are gonna screw this up, especially in the beginning. Nevermind that we'd now have bare skin and all that implies exposed and touching everything. Every chair has had other people's butts and private parts allllll over it and now it's a place for you to sit.... I'll pass.
I cracked a joke in response to you not asking people to cover themselves up in public: with the bag on head thing. I thought the sarcasm was both funny and obvious. I then continued said joke with the "the stores are hurting for money/please buy pants, joke. I then did transition to a side of semi serious with pointing out how difficult an adjustment would be to a society that publicly accepted nudity from the puritanical thing we are now.
That awkwardness, would be there....
I then went on to jokingly compare myself to a dentist who gives out sugar in the hopes of drumming up business and then pointed out the problem of how people wouldn't adapt quickly while pointing out the chair problem which numerous people have sense solved via towels and/or robes.
As long as you yourself generally wear as much clothing as you claim, I'm not really seeing how it would be an issue? Your clothing protects you from others people's junk just as much as theirs does.
I've gotta argue there that this is only so because of clothes. I mean, unless we're going to bleach every chair we sit in, every table we sit at, and everything we touch with the bits of our body that we don't think about...I'll pass.
Not really, no. Basically, it's "gross" to you. Fine, but the actual hygienics of the issue? No worse than what we have no. (Which is pretty bad, because even fucking doctors are terribly at washing their hands)
Honestly though, you know people are gonna screw this up, especially in the beginning. Nevermind that we now have bare skin and all that implies exposed and touching everything. Every chair has had other people's butts and private parts allllll over it and now it's a place for you to sit.... I'll pass.
"No, girls shouldn't be allowed to wear short skirts. It's going to make rapists rape more. Down to the ankles or stay at home! And I don't want their fucking thighs rubbing against our seats. How disgusting is that?"
And when one nudist sits in the chair after the last one does?
Can you honestly not see the difference between, "being all upset about wearing short skirts," and "literally wearing no clothing at all?" Ideally, it wouldn't matter. In reality.... 
Most of what I've seen about it on the internet that was sensible said something about bringing a towel with you if you're sitting somewhere that isn't explicitly your thing to sit on. So towels would be more important, that probably can't be too much of a bad thing, we already have towels you can wear as a poncho anyway.
So, we'd be back to clothes?
I once again pointed out the, hereafter solved with towels or robes, chair problem. Said there was a difference between nudity and short skirts and finally made a joke that tested quite well with the 18-34 crowd about it becoming "robity" rather than nudity." This line was featured in the next post.
Most of what I've seen about it on the internet that was sensible said something about bringing a towel with you if you're sitting somewhere that isn't explicitly your thing to sit on. So towels would be more important, that probably can't be too much of a bad thing, we already have towels you can wear as a poncho anyway.
So, we'd be back to clothes?
More back to robes than clothes.
So... Less "nudity" and more "robity?"
And when one nudist sits in the chair after the last one does?
Wear something over your ass and it doesn't effect you at all either way, does it?
Can you honestly not see the difference between, "being all upset about wearing short skirts," and "literally wearing no clothing at all?" Ideally, it wouldn't matter. In reality....
Yes, of course I can see the difference - one of them disgusts you, and the other doesn't. Is there another difference I'm supposed to be catching?
No one is arguing the case for mandatory nudity, or even a societal expectation of nudity, and since none of you would be required to be naked, I really don't understand the objections.
I think I'm failing to convey just how little of a crap I give about nudity one way or the other. "Disgust" would mean I cared enough to be disgusted. I don't. I just couldn't give a damn less. My response is more or less a yawn.
My argument, per usual, goes solely to the practicality and implementation problems or lack thereof. Also per usual, I am jaded and operate off the assumption that humans are bastards. I disclose this regularly.
Speaking of regularly, I deal with criminals on a daily basis and sometimes am a little scared of them. Forget "mandatory," they will ruin it with just "optional," I think. So first you're going to let the criminals be all naked in public. Then there's other people (read: potential marks/victims) who are also naked by choice. These come into the same place.... Hilarity will not ensue.
Lots of people in the general public will steal anything not nailed down or on fire. Given a claw hammer and a bucket of water, they'll take those things too.
Lastly and speaking of the next post, I said the robity joke, which I have thoroughly beaten into the ground, disclosed my once again legendarily jaded and cynical nature, said many of my criminal defense clients would ruin it for everyone, and finally finished it off with yet more jadedness.
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Honestly, I'm not seeing why this is upsetting you. You do realize I dress as a woman at home pretty much every chance I get "on my own time," knowing that most of the world would be jerks about it, right? Why would I care if people don't dress at all on their own time? There's no disgust or repulsion.
What I'm saying and all I'm saying is that there would be issues to overcome. I think I had this same issue when people thought I was against Poligamy when really I was just pointing out the significant legal hurtles to making it work.
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