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Author Topic: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread  (Read 881850 times)

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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8535 on: December 19, 2011, 11:51:50 am »

That guy is either insane or a Republican candidate for presidency.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8536 on: December 19, 2011, 12:25:52 pm »

Wait, wait, wait....so they went from decrying how Obama was trampling the Constitution and defying the Supreme Court (when pressed on particulars, all we got was "healthcare...mumble mumble...death camps...mumble mumble....SOCIALISM!) to openly advocating trampling the Constitution and defying the Supreme Court?

Irony is not only dead, its corpse has been exhumed, defiled, and baked into a cake, which Newt Gingrich promptly consumed and shat out. On the Constitution.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8537 on: December 19, 2011, 12:38:11 pm »

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-gingrich-judges-20111217,0,1295899.story

Newt Gingrich says he'd defy Supreme Court rulings he opposed.... And the supreme court would kick him square in the nuts for it....


I love how he's saying that Obama shouldn't overrule the court if they declare Obamacare is illegal because the judiciary should only be overruled in critical situation, like terrorrism or gay wedding.

So basically, he wants the court to only rules what the G.O.P. want?

Well, my house is kinda big, I guess I can host up to 5 refugees.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8538 on: December 19, 2011, 12:50:02 pm »

People with the mental stability of Newt Gingrich used to be homeless people on the street corner screaming at traffic. Now they're all rich and running for president.

What happened?
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« Reply #8539 on: December 19, 2011, 12:52:14 pm »

People with the mental stability of Newt Gingrich used to be homeless people on the street corner screaming at traffic. Now they're all rich and running for president.

What happened?
The American Dream baby.
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« Reply #8540 on: December 19, 2011, 01:01:15 pm »

People with the mental stability of Newt Gingrich used to be homeless people on the street corner screaming at traffic. Now they're all rich and running for president.

What happened?
The American Dream baby.

Watchmen (paraphrased):
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The Comedian: "The American Dream, it came true...."
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« Reply #8541 on: December 19, 2011, 01:37:04 pm »

Glenn Beck blasted by other conservatives for saying Tea Party only supports Gingrich because he's white.

This is just too delicious.

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« Reply #8542 on: December 19, 2011, 01:41:55 pm »

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« Reply #8543 on: December 19, 2011, 01:44:23 pm »

If you want conservatives blasting someone just look at their descriptions of Newt.
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NB: That was just one of the ten commentators featured in the article (Jennifer Rubin).
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8544 on: December 19, 2011, 01:44:51 pm »

you know what? there should actually be no need for people having to vote other people onto a chair so those people get to decide.
We are currently in the 21st century.
i am pretty sure there are big enough servers to handle the stress of milions of people at the same time doing something as simple as ticking a yes or no to a post.
for reference, think of 9gag.com.
you post a picture, you get a like or dislike, you then go with a "fix it" or "mark as repost".
there is no moderation done by the authors, it's all done by those who go there.
to think how powerful this tool actually is, go and search for the nescafè thing which is currently ravaging.
i mean, it's a tool.
it costs money to mantain the servers, but pubblicity quite frankly covers it with a large amount view (as people actually voting for their countries would).
you just make a requirement that for a law to pass, it needs more than 75% approval from the people.
you open up specific internet cafè only for voting. which are free, but only go on the voting pages.
you give a single user account based on a series of alphanumerical unique characters, and a password specifically done for that.
you use a "relee" kind of server, so votes while being kept on a public one, are counted only in a different time hour a day, and moved to the "official internet-less server except for transfer data" only at that time.
So hacking attempts are nullified. (unplug it from the internet, i dare see an hacker manage it through psychic waves.)
now you may happily remove the entirety of the government system, getting back all the expenses that you can get.
the future is in this. the sooner we start realizing this, the sooner we can aim for something else...
 
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8545 on: December 19, 2011, 01:49:31 pm »

Sorry but direct democracy is still not technically feasible. The technology for instantaneous digital only elections IS NOT SECURE and will be gamed.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8546 on: December 19, 2011, 01:57:41 pm »

Technical reasons it can't work aside, I also see a massive problem with "majority rules" scenarios.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8547 on: December 19, 2011, 02:01:35 pm »

Technical reasons it can't work aside, I also see a massive problem with "majority rules" scenarios.

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding who what to have for dinner.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8548 on: December 19, 2011, 02:04:39 pm »

Sorry but direct democracy is still not technically feasible. The technology for instantaneous digital only elections IS NOT SECURE and will be gamed.

but isn't there already the face recognition and fingerprint recognition technology?
you could add those to specific voting stations.
and, after all, you could hire those of the anonymous to defend the servers.

Technical reasons it can't work aside, I also see a massive problem with "majority rules" scenarios.

isn't democracy all about majority rule though?
you see, i too understand the problem lying in giving direct vote to a population of whom a lot are composed of complete and utter morons (they exist, i know a few, so they exist).
Point is, however, that having the possibility to do so, and not doing it, is hypocrit. (i know it's wrong how it's written, but i can't remember how it's correctly written)
Sure, we could, instead of giving vote to people who are of 21/18 years old, give vote only to people who actually have a degree in something useful.
Like mathematics, or engineering, or people who are of atheist thought, because, unless otherwise noted exceptions, every single constitution has written on "the government follows no specific religion". So you cut down the mass and keep the ones who actually know why they are voting, or who, at the very, very least can be argued with in normal tones which differ from "god said so; you are lying" "but he's giving me shiny things!" and so on.
i am overly extremizing the situation, and it should be something to be thought of calmly and with another group of people.
Point is, the possibility will exist, certainly, but when it will become a concrete possibility, will we be able to trust in democracy?
or at heart, we all know that life is better under a single ruler government? like monarchy or dictatorship?

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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8549 on: December 19, 2011, 02:07:21 pm »

Say what you want about politicians, but direct democracy is a far worse idea. They may all have agendas, but at least they're informed ones. I shudder to think what would happen if the American public at large were given that much control, regardless of how "secure" the system supposedly was.
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