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[SalmonGod]

So my wife called around to all the insurance companies she could find today to investigate the costs of buying her health insurance separate from my employment benefits, which decided to start screwing us over this year.

Every single one wanted to know if she planned on or was at risk of getting pregnant, and would refuse her business if so.  A couple would even mandate that she start taking some kind of birth control.

So it seems we're to the point where having children is a privilege reserved for the rich?

[Vector]

No, Twilight was definitely stacked against people of color in all sorts of ways.  Trust me on this one.  I read it, as well as a hefty number of analyses.


Kaijyuu, I think you're right about the lack of language for forced penetration.  As far as the glass elevator thing goes, I think she was saying that "Oh, poor us, we have people who want to promote us" is a perspective that ignores the other side of the coin--precisely what you're stating was at issue.

So it seems we're to the point where having children is a privilege reserved for the rich?

That, and women's health doesn't matter anymore.

[G-Flex]

No, Twilight was definitely stacked against people of color in all sorts of ways.  Trust me on this one.  I read it, as well as a hefty number of analyses.

It definitely relies on some tired Native American stereotypes. However, I find it a pretty ignorant and harmful book/series regarding anything remotely sociological; the way it treats relationships and characters in general is probably far worse than how it treats Native Americans specifically.

[Virex]

No, Twilight was definitely stacked against people of color in all sorts of ways.  Trust me on this one.  I read it, as well as a hefty number of analyses.

Does that qualify as self-destructive behavior?

[sonerohi]

A person should only be allowed to be a member of a legislature if they know what the crap the law is. Either they should have to be a lawyer or have a damn good one they have to run anything by before they say something

Except that that isn't really feasible or entirely desirable.

[kaijyuu]

As far as the glass elevator thing goes, I think she was saying that "Oh, poor us, we have people who want to promote us" is a perspective that ignores the other side of the coin--precisely what you're stating was at issue.

Right, if that's what the blog was stating, then I'm behind it.

Still I think we can agree that this glass elevator thing is good for no one... well except the guy that wants an easy route to elementary school principal. I know my schools were 90% female teachers and 90% male administration, at least until high school where it evened out. I somewhat doubt there's a lack of men wanting to teach and a lack of women wanting to administrate. Same goes for other fields.

[palsch]

Someone versed in legal jargon will have to answer this: Does it also include forcing to penetrate? The way I read it, it seems men can only be victims of rape if they get something stuck in their bum. I'm hoping I'm reading it wrong.

Yeah, it's still fairly crap.

Just considerably better than it used to be.

I don't really see the problem with just using the UN's definition of "sexual intercourse without valid consent," but at least now they are ignoring fewer subsets of... yeah, I can't finish that one.

[sluissa]

Truean, wow... just wow... I never realized it was quite that complicated. Although I should have known and I definitely knew it was more so than I was implying with my last post. Sorry if I caused you to have to type all that out.

[KaelGotDwarves]

From the Occupy Wallstreet thread:

Mostly moderate Politico also reporting that "Rich-poor gap growing" as per government records.

50% of US workers made less than $26,364 last year.

[Bauglir]

... Sweet jegus, I'm literally just entering the workforce into a 90% time job, and am making slightly above the median income? That's kind of disturbing.

[KaelGotDwarves]

Highly dependent, of course, on your previous background and education level, race, sex, socio-economic status...

Congrats to you and me, at least.

[Rose]

it's more than what I get.

[Vactor]

A person should only be allowed to be a member of a legislature if they know what the crap the law is. Either they should have to be a lawyer or have a damn good one they have to run anything by before they say something

Except that that isn't really feasible or entirely desirable.

As someone who worked in a legislature for 3 years I can tell you that they absolutely have top notch lawyers that they run these things by, who tell them that the bill doesn't stand a chance as law.  Many bills are introduced without any expectation of it being signed into, or staying law.  An elected politicians actions are done to have the majority of votes cast in the next election to be for them.  The electorate gets the legislature it deserves.  If they desire illegal/unconstitutional laws being passed and then struck down in court, that is what they get.

[SalmonGod]

I'm also making slightly above median, and I bet that figure doesn't include work-related costs after salary - such as deductions for insurance benefits or work-related costs offloaded onto employees, which are also becoming more popular practices these days.  Yeah, my employer pays me about $28k, which is above the median, but then my deduction for benefits is going to be almost doubling to about $4200 next year.  So while my salary is technically increasing by 1.8%, in reality I'm getting a huge pay cut.  I would be surprised if this kind of thing isn't happening to a lot of people and further skewing these figures.

[sonerohi]

A person should only be allowed to be a member of a legislature if they know what the crap the law is. Either they should have to be a lawyer or have a damn good one they have to run anything by before they say something

Except that that isn't really feasible or entirely desirable.

As someone who worked in a legislature for 3 years I can tell you that they absolutely have top notch lawyers that they run these things by, who tell them that the bill doesn't stand a chance as law.  Many bills are introduced without any expectation of it being signed into, or staying law.  An elected politicians actions are done to have the majority of votes cast in the next election to be for them.  The electorate gets the legislature it deserves.  If they desire illegal/unconstitutional laws being passed and then struck down in court, that is what they get.

What I meant was more along the lines of finding people. For every cool person like Truean that actually gives a shit about their cases and works hard, I'd wager for 2-3 of the scumbag money-maker types. And really, one term is time enough to wreck a few things and stonewall others.