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Author Topic: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread  (Read 872572 times)

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« Reply #6090 on: October 14, 2011, 06:41:59 pm »

No one said "over."

Given that I read these things and post them, it'll only take a couple more seconds to say "oh, hey, this article has some difficult points."
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« Reply #6091 on: October 14, 2011, 06:44:32 pm »

Oh you mean you're going to add disclaimers. I thought you meant you were going to avoid posting them...
Though I don't know how much effect that will have. I don't think the amount of discussion is going to decrease, it's only going to change shape to people pointing out that we already know that. Though, only time can tell of course.
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« Reply #6092 on: October 14, 2011, 06:46:52 pm »

Hmm, have they been saying issues are female only?
Well the "gaslighting" one from pages back comes to mind, but that may be me misinterpreting it. I read it as only women get gaslighted. The conclusion I came to was that women were gaslighted for being women (among other things), while men were gaslighted for reasons other than gender. Maybe that's what the article was saying in the first place.

/shrug

I wouldn't say articles you link say problems only affect women is a common occurrence, so don't worry too much about it :)
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« Reply #6093 on: October 14, 2011, 06:49:12 pm »

Hmm, I didn't at all think it was an "only women get gaslighted" thing, so much as "women tend to be gaslighted for their gender alone."

So, not

Person A is gaslighted -> Person A is a woman

but

Person A is a woman -> Person A will more likely than not be gaslighted at some point of her life.
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« Reply #6094 on: October 14, 2011, 06:51:48 pm »

Aaaahhhh my workgroup would have a damn 90 minute meeting just as people start discussing hints I have dropped at private details.

I really hope you've got some sort of plan for when she starts showing visible signs of aging =/

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She sounds like a crazy person and you're a bad person for staying in a bad relationship.

Here is what I can say about this (it's hard to present a clear picture without overstepping very sensitive points of confidentiality) that is relevant, and I think it needs to be said.  A lot of my outlook on life (including feminist issues) has been formed by these experiences, and I hate how people try to simplify and judge other's circumstances.

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« Reply #6095 on: October 14, 2011, 06:54:34 pm »

You forget that I apologized for what I said about her and instead aimed at you. Someone like that you shouldn't emotionally blackmail like that, ever. And that's all I'm going to say on that. Because what she's doing is an emotional reaction she has to learn to deal with and yours is just sick and bullshit. You can do a lot less damage using a different method.
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« Reply #6096 on: October 14, 2011, 06:56:30 pm »

Quit the personal attacks already, will you? This is spinning fast towards mod intervention
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« Reply #6097 on: October 14, 2011, 06:58:24 pm »

I'm just saying I don't think it's right to pretty much threaten someone with something like that who's been through that kind of life. She needs help and reassurance, not being told that things are over if a certain behavior doesn't stop.
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« Reply #6098 on: October 14, 2011, 06:59:14 pm »

You forget that I apologized for what I said about her and instead aimed at you. Someone like that you shouldn't emotionally blackmail like that, ever. And that's all I'm going to say on that. Because what she's doing is an emotional reaction she has to learn to deal with and yours is just sick and bullshit. You can do a lot less damage using a different method.

Maybe you know something I don't.  I've always done what I thought best.
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Maybe people should love for the sake of loving, and not with all of these optimization conditions.

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« Reply #6099 on: October 14, 2011, 07:02:42 pm »

I'm not sure I see emotional manipulation.  get the distinct feeling anything he's mentioned about divorce was a mid-argument outburst that, upon further consideration, wasn't actually something he wanted and for which I imagine he's apologized. I might be reading too much into his posts since he's never said that explicitly, but damned if it didn't sound like a "This is something I'm not proud of having done, but which you should know to understand what I'm saying" statement.
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Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
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« Reply #6100 on: October 14, 2011, 07:05:16 pm »

If he did I apologize for that too since really... I took a breath and looked back at this and this isn't a discussion I should be involved in. Since marriage problems and manipulation are serious, serious sore spots for me that I tend to explode on.

If so I'm sorry for that too. Just god damn I can't help it if my brain tells my eyes it sees this when that is typed up.
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« Reply #6101 on: October 14, 2011, 07:06:07 pm »

I certainly don't know enough about the situation to say anything about it.

You sounded distressed, though, SalmonGod, so I wanted to make sure to point that out in case you hadn't thought about it.  I may look forward to aging, but not many people do.
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« Reply #6102 on: October 14, 2011, 07:08:14 pm »

Hey, well, hugs all around? We're all on the level here, friendos[/oldquote, probably not appropriate to the situation]
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“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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« Reply #6103 on: October 14, 2011, 07:10:09 pm »

I'm just going to say I stuck a piece of tape on the inside lid of my laptop that says "RE-READ AND TAKE A DEEP BREATH" and say god dammit sorry.

Jesus those anger management classes sound good about now.
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« Reply #6104 on: October 14, 2011, 07:11:44 pm »

I'm just going to say I stuck a piece of tape on the inside lid of my laptop that says "RE-READ AND TAKE A DEEP BREATH" and say god dammit sorry.

Jesus those anger management classes sound good about now.

Hey, it's okay.  One of the things I like best about this thread is how the people in it can get really pissed off and help each other calm down most of the time.  Thanks for helping that happen.
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