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[Jackrabbit]

Wearing miniskirts in public isn't a indicator. A person who is slutty could and probably would wear provocative clothing. So would someone who thinks it looks good. Are we going to define people by their taste in fashion?

[Mindmaker]

Tank top doesn't strike me as particularely slutty.
A miniskirt, when it's designed to show of an indecent amount of skin or even your underwear does.

[scriver]

There's also the implication that because they dress "provocatively" and are sluts they deserve to be raped. It's not the fact that people judge others based on appearance that is the main problem, it's the conclusions they draw because of that "judgement".

A direct comparison, for example, would be if the Constable said that people should avoid dressing like nerds so they don't get assaulted or bullied. It's putting the fault on the victim, not the perpetrator.

[Virex]

There's also the implication that because they dress "provocatively" and are sluts they deserve to be raped. It's not the fact that people judge others based on appearance that is the main problem, it's the conclusions they draw because of that "judgement".

A direct comparison, for example, would be if the Constable said that people should avoid dressing like nerds so they don't get assaulted or bullied. It's putting the fault on the victim, not the perpetrator.

On a side note, that is exactly what insurance companies (and to a lesser extent the police too) do. If you don't lock your door, then it's your fault for getting your TV stolen. Not that I'm equating rape and burglary, but it is interesting to see that our world is so inconsistent when it comes to this concept.

Wearing miniskirts in public isn't a indicator. A person who is slutty could and probably would wear provocative clothing. So would someone who thinks it looks good. Are we going to define people by their taste in fashion?

You're still thinking from your own viewpoint, which is that someone has to have a lot of sex to be a slut, while I'm saying that the problem is due to a viewpoint mismatch. To people who define sluts as overly promiscuous, it doesn't matter if they're still virgins or are getting it on with 3 guys, a girl and a dog at the same time, if they behave in a certain way they're a slut. (Not saying I subscribe to that viewpoint). To people who hold this definition, a 'slut walk' is rather confusing, since it is essentially saying "Don't think we're overly promiscuous just because we are overly promiscuous'...

[Mindmaker]

Not arguing about the implications there.
Just got a bit annoyed about "When you believe x you are y" which would have "made" me a rapist.

[Jackrabbit]

Tank top doesn't strike me as particularely slutty.
A miniskirt, when it's designed to show of an indecent amount of skin or even your underwear does.

It can be, yes, but what I'm saying is a person might just like the way it looks and not, you know, be a slut. A slut isn't someone who walks around with skirts that flash their panties. There's a strong argument to be made that they're idiots, yes, but it doesn't mean they like to have lots of sex with lots of people.

Wearing miniskirts in public isn't a indicator. A person who is slutty could and probably would wear provocative clothing. So would someone who thinks it looks good. Are we going to define people by their taste in fashion?

You're still thinking from your own viewpoint, which is that someone has to have a lot of sex to be a slut, while I'm saying that the problem is due to a viewpoint mismatch. To people who define sluts as overly promiscuous, it doesn't matter if they're still virgins or are getting it on with 3 guys, a girl and a dog at the same time, if they behave in a certain way they're a slut. (Not saying I subscribe to that viewpoint). To people who hold this definition, a 'slut walk' is rather confusing, since it is essentially saying "Don't think we're overly promiscuous just because we are overly promiscuous'...

You can be a slut without having sex? When did that happen?

Not arguing about the implications there.
Just got a bit annoyed about "When you believe x you are y" which would have "made" me a rapist.

No no, not what I'm saying. I'm saying people shouldn't label others based on stupid clothing choices.

[Virex]

Since when do you have to have a lot of sex to be a slut? When did that happen?

[Jackrabbit]

I was always under the assumption that the definition of a slut.

e: dictionary.com claims it's a immoral, dirty woman or a prostitute. Oh, alrighty. I still think common consensus is that a slut is somebody who has a lot of sex with a lot of people but I guess arguing a definition isn't really worthwhile and I'm not sure what the point was anymore.

[Mindmaker]

Huh and that in the age where everybody keeps saying "You are what you wear" 

I also agree that "being a slut" isn't tied to sex.

[Jackrabbit]

Huh and that in the age where everybody keeps saying "You are what you wear" 

Should it be, though?

[Virex]

This does remind me that people in a suit are usually unfairly regarded as corporate representatives, especially if they have a suitcase. What if I just like to wear a suit? Why does everyone assume I'm affiliated with some corporation? Likewise, if I don't wash my clothes or myself for a month and show up drunk, people will assume I'm a hobo or at least homeless. It wouldn't be so bad if it were just people on the street, but you'll also get foul looks at the workplace or in shops...

[Jackrabbit]

This does remind me that people in a suit are usually unfairly regarded as corporate representatives, especially if they have a suitcase. What if I just like to wear a suit? Why does everyone assume I'm affiliated with some corporation?

Damn straight. I just like suits, myself.

[Mindmaker]

Huh and that in the age where everybody keeps saying "You are what you wear" 

Should it be, though?

I'm simply stating that it's an unwritten rule that seems too be in effect nowadays.
I don't like it, but I do pay some attention to it to keep me out of deeper trouble.

[G-Flex]

You're still thinking from your own viewpoint, which is that someone has to have a lot of sex to be a slut, while I'm saying that the problem is due to a viewpoint mismatch. To people who define sluts as overly promiscuous, it doesn't matter if they're still virgins or are getting it on with 3 guys, a girl and a dog at the same time, if they behave in a certain way they're a slut.

Wait. So to people who define sluts as overly promiscuous, it doesn't matter if they're promiscuous? What the hell?

[kaijyuu]

I think it's more they pre-judge them as promiscuous or whatever based on <insert arbitrary criteria here, like clothing>.

They don't need further proof that that person's a slut. All the proof you need is right there; just look at what they're wearing! 


EDIT: Reading more of the thread, that may be on a tangent. I think it silly that anyone would define someone as a "slut" based on behavior outside of sexual deviancy.