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Author Topic: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread  (Read 872094 times)

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Re: Vector's Chill and Relaxed Progressive Rage Thread
« Reply #5880 on: October 13, 2011, 07:07:01 am »

I hate it when other people do that.
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« Reply #5881 on: October 13, 2011, 10:04:41 am »

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Re: Vector's Chill and Relaxed Progressive Rage Thread
« Reply #5882 on: October 13, 2011, 10:19:16 am »

OMG so excited finally a game for girls like me :3

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.

Yea... The sims did that much better. It never told you what you had to be, but let you be what you want.

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« Reply #5883 on: October 13, 2011, 10:30:46 am »

HEY! I liked the sims  :(

OMG so excited finally a game for girls like me :3
Wow.
[sarcasm]I'm going to make a game just for black people. That must be a completely untouched demographic as well, since only white nerd boys play games, right?[/sarcasm]

... Hmmm... That's not such a bad idea, apart from all the lawsuits, of course. Which is odd, that if I made a game about <insert racism stereotype here> I'd probably get sued for being distasteful and racist, and this crap can get published unchallenged...
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Re: Vector's Chill and Relaxed Progressive Rage Thread
« Reply #5884 on: October 13, 2011, 10:33:54 am »

Finally a truly pedagogical game for girls! I have been looking everywhere for a game that can educate my daughters about the real world and their place in it. Definitely bookmarked.
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Re: Vector's Chill and Relaxed Progressive Rage Thread
« Reply #5885 on: October 13, 2011, 11:26:11 am »

I'll abstain from sarcasm and just say I'm thoroughly disgusted.

I did have a perverse laugh at boyfriends only being beneficial through the money they give you and as accessories to bring to parties. Replaceable as a wristband.

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Ok back to being disgusted.
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Re: Vector's Chill and Relaxed Progressive Rage Thread
« Reply #5886 on: October 13, 2011, 11:42:06 am »

HEY! I liked the sims  :(


I was saying the sims was a much better "game for girls" than that shallow stereotype game. That doesn't mean it isn't also a game that guys can enjoy. It does not restrict you to any stereotypical path, but lets you follow your own. It has elements that appeal more to women (of many different types) than the violence and conflict that are nearly omnipresent in more male oriented games.
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« Reply #5887 on: October 13, 2011, 11:53:15 am »

I can't really say I'm disgusted. I mean, it's not pleasant, but this is absolutely not unique. This is how "games for girls" have been treated for as long as I can remember.

Not saying it's right, but... if you're around enough shit, eventually you stop smelling it.

I think there's a lot that could be changed to make gaming appeal more equally to both sexes even though it's starting to move in that direction in any case. (and I'm not even counting casual, facebooky and popcappy games)

Yes, the sexism could be toned down. We don't need so much 'fan service' as they say in some corners for games to be fun or to sell, but I think more and more, women are starting to look past it, ignore it. You have plenty of women now who are willing to have fun blowing up and killing stuff and not care if they're wearing a chainmail bikinitm or being a man while doing it.

I'm sure there's an argument whether that's a good thing or not, but even if you don't consider ignoring the problem to be an answer, it's at least one possible first step. First prove to the companies that women are a market, (As is already being done, if the sources here are reliable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girl_gamer although, I do question some of those numbers. (how many females who buy games are simply buying them for someone else.) then they'll start listening.

Boycotts won't solve anything in this case. Boycotts only work when the companies feel they're losing profits they already had. Many don't feel women compose a significant market share so are willing to ignore any calls for women to not buy their product, thinking that even if people listened, it wouldn't make a difference in their bottom line.
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« Reply #5888 on: October 13, 2011, 11:56:03 am »

OMG so excited finally a game for girls like me :3

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.

Aaaahahaha. I'll admit, sluissa has a point in "if you're around enough shit, eventually you stop smelling it.", but this is just hilarious. It's like the final form of the final boss that is dumb, non-entertaining skinner box "games for girls".

Oh yeah, and I like the Sims too. I love 2, and have 3. It never stopped being entertaining to build houses, design Sims and watch them play out.
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Re: Vector's Chill and Relaxed Progressive Rage Thread
« Reply #5889 on: October 13, 2011, 12:39:33 pm »

I say there are many gender neutral games out there
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« Reply #5890 on: October 13, 2011, 01:03:36 pm »

Most people's response to the Milgram Experiment seems to be "Damn.  People suck."
People is always "those other people" :)

Except I very consciously and deliberately mean "most people".  I've been presenting evidence, such as the Milgram Experiment, that the way society operates seems designed to bring the absolute worst features out of humanity for roughly half my life.  It's very rare to meet someone who doesn't regard these things as some sad curiosity (like an especially gruesome roadkill) that might evoke some shallow emotional response at best, but rarely any consideration as a thing of value that can be learned from.
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Re: Vector's Chill and Relaxed Progressive Rage Thread
« Reply #5891 on: October 13, 2011, 01:05:46 pm »

I say there are many gender neutral games out there
Just about any game is gender neutral really. It all depends on what you want out of a game.
There are plenty of female gamers out there that love beating the crap out of stuff, and plenty of male gamers that like dating sims.

Neither of them are really to my taste though.

Of course, I imagine there are guys out there who would want to pretend to be a stereotyped teenage girl. I suppose to each their own.
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Re: Vector's Chill and Relaxed Progressive Rage Thread
« Reply #5892 on: October 13, 2011, 01:33:23 pm »

Yeah I'm not sure there's such a thing as a "male game" either. I like both the sims and ripping peoples' souls apart.
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Re: Vector's Chill and Relaxed Progressive Rage Thread
« Reply #5893 on: October 13, 2011, 02:47:20 pm »

More on girls in games: http://www.tidewaternews.com/2011/10/07/sa-girl-football-player-sits-out/

Female high school football player sits out a game so the rest of her team can play when the other team threatens to forfeit instead of play against her.
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Re: Vector's Chill and Relaxed Progressive Rage Thread
« Reply #5894 on: October 13, 2011, 02:53:26 pm »

I gotta say, even more than being pissed off at her poor treatment by other teams, I'm impressed by how cool and amazing she is.
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