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[Gunner-Chan]

I'm not sure what I'm doing in here actually, but if my sister is any indication of the fanbase the fans say Male/manshep for male Shepard and Femshep for female Shepard. And just Shepard when they mean the character in general.

And really, as someone who finds sexist issues in everything all the time to the point it makes 80% of entertainment out there unenjoyable, there's very little if any of that in Mass effect from what I've seen. Though it does have some other issues that likely would be good topics here possibly.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

He's dead :*(.

RIP man. This wasn't right.

The final words of Troy Davis are as such:

"I'd like to address the MacPhail family. Let you know, despite the situation you are in, I'm not the one who personally killed your son, your father, your brother. I am innocent.

The incident that happened that night is not my fault. I did not have a gun. All I can ask ... is that you look deeper into this case so that you really can finally see the truth.

I ask my family and friends to continue to fight this fight.

For those about to take my life, God have mercy on your souls. And may God bless your souls."

[Solifuge]

If Troy Davis was innocent; as his court history, the testimonies of those involved, and other related factors have lead me to believe; I hope that it comes to light. I can only hope that some form of good grows out of this... that if yet another innocent was murdered before the truth could come to light, it might chip away at the base of Capital Punishment enough to bring our culture to reconsider it as an appropriate, humane, and just way of punishing the convicted.

Even if you doubt his innocence, or that of anyone else, know this: The only person who can't change their ways is a dead person.

I'm sorry, Troy.

[Dsarker]

What part of ethical behaviour makes it okay to be a murderer?

[kaijyuu]

Err, is anyone saying it is? O.o

[Dsarker]

The society itself says it is by not banning it.

[Syreniac]

The society itself says it is by not banning it.

Uh, what?

[Dsarker]

Simple. The society has not removed the death penalty as a punishment. As it hasn't, it is, de facto, affirming that it is a correct solution.

[Luke_Prowler]

Simple. The society has not removed the death penalty as a punishment. As it hasn't, it is, de facto, affirming that it is a correct solution.

But seriously, you can't umbrella "society" over one opinion. In fact, most states in America and others countries have outlawed the death penalty. Certainly the vast majority on this site are against it.

[Dsarker]

Simple. The society has not removed the death penalty as a punishment. As it hasn't, it is, de facto, affirming that it is a correct solution.

But seriously, you can't umbrella "society" over one opinion. In fact, most states in America and others countries have outlawed the death penalty. Certainly the vast majority on this site are against it.

I know. But that is like saying (to go the furthest to absurdity) "Only some of the states allow genocide as a punishment. Most are against it."

I'm umbrellaing the USA in this statement.

If you are governed by the will of the people, in a democracy, and the majority of people say that a punishment is unjust and should be removed, DAMN WELL REMOVE IT.

[Africa]

Fuckin' a. Also, Troy Davis would not have been killed if he was white, anybody think otherwise? This is disgusting.

[Heron TSG]

If you are governed by the will of the people, in a democracy, and the majority of people say that a punishment is unjust and should be removed, DAMN WELL REMOVE IT.

I don't think you understand how the United States works. All of the liberals in the heavily populated states can vote for what they want in their states. If there aren't many liberals in Nebraska, the conservatives will get their way in Nebraska. Similarly, if one particular state has a majority that is not against the death penalty, the death penalty remains. It means that we have a death penalty in some states, but it also means that the people of a state get what the people in that state want. The conservative majority in Nebraska would get rather pissed off if a bunch of liberal city dwellers started telling them what they could or could not do.

[Bohandas]

If you are governed by the will of the people, in a democracy, and the majority of people say that a punishment is unjust and should be removed, DAMN WELL REMOVE IT.

I don't think you understand how the United States works. All of the liberals in the heavily populated states can vote for what they want in their states. If there aren't many liberals in Nebraska, the conservatives will get their way in Nebraska. Similarly, if one particular state has a majority that is not against the death penalty, the death penalty remains. It means that we have a death penalty in some states, but it also means that the people of a state get what the people in that state want. The conservative majority in Nebraska would get rather pissed off if a bunch of liberal city dwellers started telling them what they could or could not do.

It could be banned under a reinterpretation of the eighth amendment.

(Also, fuck state governments, to hell with them. Their existence is one of the biggest mistakes made by the founding fathers)

[ChairmanPoo]

I actually think the state system in the US is a neat idea.


Besides, there's no way you can get a country so large running without regional goverments of some sort. Heck, even comparatively smaller countries like Italy, Spain or the UK must resort to them.

[Bohandas]

Well, I guess the real problem I have isn't that they exist so much as that they have more power than they should. For administrative purposes I suppose that they make sense, but optimally their power should be midway between that of a city government and the federal government, erring on the side of city, whereas in reality and constitutionally, their power over their jurisdiction is almost as great as the federal government itself.