My friend tells me to read this thread on some forum I've never heard of, and I'm bored so I'm going to play the opposition.
. . . Seriously? Just so you know, you pretty much made my life.
Uh, or my day, at least. But please, thank your friend for me, and welcome to the thread.
I'll ask you to feel free to ask the difficult questions (out of boredom or not), but arguing something you don't believe just to have an argument is a tad on the annoying side. We've already got loads of people on the other side to fight against, and limited energy.
For now, though, I'll assume that you're doing the former =)
If the event was on the lines of psychotic fan stalking this woman (whoever she is) into an elevator after having been already told off, ok, he's a creep. It doesn't even need an elevator involved
Yeah, she'd just made a speech about asking people not to do this sort of crap at atheist conferences because it made her and other women uncomfortable. Then he followed her into the elevator (could be either normal or creepy--might just need to take the elevator) and asked her to have coffee with him (puts it in the definitely creepy category, given the previous context, which says something about his intentions for following her).
As someone with a vested interest in not seeing the "opposition" brought down by a debater who may only be in it for the lulz, I'm going to give you the forewarning that "I was only messing with you" is something that is not tolerated in this thread. I'm not saying you have bad intentions, I'm just saying that you generally have to remain in good faith if you want to be taken seriously in debates here. Just don't get yourself knee-deep in it, and then "lolololol" off into the sunset, that's all.
That said, welcome to the forum.
Yeah, you put this much better than I did. Thanks for your clarity.
So I present the question that I've been alluding to all along. Is your solution to go all Hitler on these religious people and lock them in concentration camps until they change their way... because they don't follow your way of life? This is the impression I get from all this ranting. You want change and you want it to happen so fast that people change their ways (to match yours) overnight. Hopefully you've seen historically that can never happen. You cement some people's opinions on their ideas (like the KKK) and you push away others that may side with you if you tihnk about it rationally (Dawkins.)
As Nadaka keeps saying, I think his goal is awareness. A societal attitude of intolerance, not necessarily on the governmental level, much like the refusal to do other nasty things within the law.