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Reelyanoob

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« Reply #1080 on: June 24, 2011, 09:52:11 pm »

Ooohhh, some good news for a change! Let's hope this is on the way to not being "newsworthy", but for the right reasons ;)
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« Reply #1081 on: June 24, 2011, 09:55:44 pm »

The state movements are nice and all, but I really wish there was a better federal movement to legalize gay marriage. Better to sweep up all 50 at once than to force them through one at a time, right?
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« Reply #1082 on: June 24, 2011, 10:01:07 pm »

I was under the impression that issuing marriage licenses had always been at the state level in th USA?

It was a good thing NY elect Cuomo and not Paladino as Governor. Though, Paladino might well have made bestiality marriage legal ;) at least with horses, the dirty conservative freak XD
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« Reply #1083 on: June 24, 2011, 10:03:12 pm »

Yeah, but that doesn't matter if the federal government issues a mandate to the rest of the union to hand out same-sex marriage licences. Supremacy clause and all that.
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« Reply #1084 on: June 24, 2011, 10:07:57 pm »

Apparently, the New York state Senate just passed their same-sex marriage bill, after an amendment about religious exemptions (I think that means religious institutions don't have to recognize such marriages for their own purposes, but preserving all governmental effects).  It's already passed the state House (although it probably has to be reconciled with the amendment) and the governor has said he'll sign it.  Probably the most important factor, is that the New York marriages are not residency based, meaning that anyone can go to New York and get a marriage license, and take it back to their home states under the Constitutional Contract Clause.  Granting trans-state marriages and doubling the number of citizens residing in same-sex marrying states is going to have some powerful repercussions around the country.

Thank you God....

Unfortunately it is far more complex but it's a step in the right direction. I couldn't say, get married in one of the states that allows gay marriage and come back to Ohio. Rather, I could, but it wouldn't be seen as valid and the State of Ohio and Federal Government wouldn't recognize it.... Ohio amended its state constitution in 2004 to define marriage as between one man and one woman and that ... well here:

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As for the federal government, it's a really odd tangle of stuff because family relationships traditionally fall within the individual state's police powers. That whole thing is a mess honestly.

As for this action, I am very very glad to see this. :)
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Re: Vector's Progressive Rage Thread
« Reply #1085 on: June 24, 2011, 10:11:05 pm »

Yeah, but that doesn't matter if the federal government issues a mandate to the rest of the union to hand out same-sex marriage licences. Supremacy clause and all that.
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« Reply #1086 on: June 24, 2011, 11:25:19 pm »

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« Reply #1087 on: June 24, 2011, 11:38:02 pm »

Other great news:

Attempt to defund Planned Parenthood blocked in Indiana.

That's both great and scary. 

If I'm reading that right, Indiana will have all of its federal medicaid funding revoked if the legislator refuses to budge on the issue.  That would screw my family over immensely.  It seems unlikely, but it's still a frightening possibility.

I need to just get out of this damn state.
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« Reply #1088 on: June 25, 2011, 12:10:01 am »

Some Chuckles from Yahoo Answers Politics (feel free to drop in over there for some partisan combat)
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« Reply #1089 on: June 25, 2011, 12:11:20 am »

If I'm reading that right, Indiana will have all of its federal medicaid funding revoked if the legislator refuses to budge on the issue.  That would screw my family over immensely.  It seems unlikely, but it's still a frightening possibility.

Yeah, uh, I should've been paying more attention--and I'm really sorry to hear that.

It sucks when legislators play chicken with human rights like that.
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« Reply #1091 on: June 25, 2011, 12:39:20 am »


Just turned on TV to see:

FOX NEWS ALERT
GAY COUPLES CAN BEGIN MARRYING IN NEW YORK IN 30 DAYS
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« Reply #1092 on: June 25, 2011, 12:41:37 am »


Haha, the asker of that question is either trolling or a massive dick.

Either way, I think it's pretty funny >____>


Just turned on TV to see:

FOX NEWS ALERT
GAY COUPLES CAN BEGIN MARRYING IN NEW YORK IN 30 DAYS

Ohhh noooooooo

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« Reply #1093 on: June 25, 2011, 12:41:53 am »

May not be because of New York, but Google is doing somthing.
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« Reply #1094 on: June 25, 2011, 12:43:00 am »

Cute little rainbow.  That's neat.

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Don't worry, FOX only lingered on it for about 45 seconds before going back to their 23 hour a day coverage of the Casey Anthony trial.

Looks like a wild party though.  Dig the Empire State getting in on the festivities, being NYC and all.
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