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Author Topic: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread  (Read 870113 times)

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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #9840 on: January 13, 2012, 01:51:18 pm »

So the problem was the banks would've tanked and taken the rest of us with them if they did. While we DID have to prop up the banks; we didn't have to prop up the stupid executives who let them get in trouble in the first place. If you're too big to fail without taking the whole damn society with you, then you're too fucking big to exist....
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« Reply #9841 on: January 13, 2012, 01:56:39 pm »

Nope, as far as I know "men going their own way" is a real, non-satirist forum for misogynists. Pretty sure it has come up in this thread before (the forum, that is, not this thread).

"So there's this online community called the Men Going Their Own Way Forums. Calling themselves "the Internet's biggest and best Men's forum", it's actually a place where disgruntled, repressed men can go and bitch about women."

Why does this sound like many feminist blogs if you reversed the genders? I'm sure I'd be lavelled sexist if I reversed the genders in this sentence. I see plenty of "bitching about men" that's labelled as "liberated women" (as opposed to men who are "repressed" when they have an issue.)

So women complaining is "liberated", men complaining is "repressed"? Seems to play into a whole pile of stereotypes itself.
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« Reply #9842 on: January 13, 2012, 02:03:49 pm »

... You should probably actually go back and read this thread. What you've said, if you're not just trollololing, has been brought up umpteenth amount of times.

tl;dr version: When women actually aren't being repressed and unequally treated, then we men can complain about that shit. Start with income equality and work from there.
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« Reply #9843 on: January 13, 2012, 02:07:09 pm »

I'm temping, and I'm earning significantly less than the woman I'm replacing :P
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« Reply #9844 on: January 13, 2012, 02:15:52 pm »

Why does this sound like many feminist blogs if you reversed the genders? I'm sure I'd be lavelled sexist if I reversed the genders in this sentence. I see plenty of "bitching about men" that's labelled as "liberated women" (as opposed to men who are "repressed" when they have an issue.)

So women complaining is "liberated", men complaining is "repressed"? Seems to play into a whole pile of stereotypes itself.

Hint: The situation men have in this country is not the same as that of women.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #9845 on: January 13, 2012, 02:17:24 pm »

Why does this sound like many feminist blogs if you reversed the genders? I'm sure I'd be lavelled sexist if I reversed the genders in this sentence. I see plenty of "bitching about men" that's labelled as "liberated women" (as opposed to men who are "repressed" when they have an issue.)

So women complaining is "liberated", men complaining is "repressed"? Seems to play into a whole pile of stereotypes itself.
I have no idea why they specifically say 'repressed'; complaining is not repressing your feelings.
However, on (what sounds like) the general point of your argument:
Women talking about being discriminated as a group against is often (though certainly not always) different from men talking about being discriminated against as a group. The difference is that one of those groups is actually discriminated against more often than the other.
To make an exaggerated comparison, your question is similar to saying "why is it that black people can complain about white people being racist against them, but it is bullshit when you reverse the situation?"
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« Reply #9846 on: January 13, 2012, 02:21:14 pm »

Yeah. I've seen "masculinist" websites before and, while sexism does impact men (even misogyny itself cuts both ways in some respects), the "men's rights" movement tends to be full of a bunch of entitled brats with basically no actual perspective concerning gender.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #9847 on: January 13, 2012, 02:23:06 pm »

I feel like reposting my "gentlemans club" post from a few hundred pages back... but lack the focus to go digging for it.

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« Reply #9848 on: January 13, 2012, 02:27:51 pm »

Back in my undergrad days, there was a Society group that referred to themselves as "The Gentleman's Club". These so called gentlemen used the club and the funding granted to it by the Students Union to engage in "manly" persuits like pipe smoking, ale drinking and watching degrading pornography, and staging events that acted as polar opposites to typical liberal student occasions. The members of this club were known to be dickheads (rude, arrogant, racist and homophobic - very british middle class) from across the spectrum of academic subjects (with a slight slant to the sciences) and most (if not all if my hazy memory is serving me well) were unhygenic, unhealthy and overweight, and often awkward in social circles which took them away from people similar to themselves. The beauty of the whole arrangement was that by Univerisity rules there had to be no barriers to membership. As a right old giggle, the LGBT societiy all joined and showed up to thier events. Witnessing an awkward spotty 19 year old creep sweat under the attentions of my good freind "gay gav" (self named by the way) was a sight to behold. Needless to say the Gentlemans club disbanded shortly afterwards. Freedom of expression at its best :).
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #9849 on: January 13, 2012, 02:31:40 pm »

Gee, it sure is a good thing that the whole sexual abuse scandal involving the Catholic Church is over no-

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« Reply #9850 on: January 13, 2012, 02:33:25 pm »

The fact it isnt suprising any more doesnt make it any less shocking or disturbing...  :'(

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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #9851 on: January 13, 2012, 02:39:38 pm »

"So there's this online community called the Men Going Their Own Way Forums. Calling themselves "the Internet's biggest and best Men's forum", it's actually a place where disgruntled, repressed men can go and bitch about women."
If you actually check out MGTOW you'll find that it really is just pointlessly bitching about women.  Seriously, just try defending them after reading a few of their threads.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #9853 on: January 13, 2012, 03:23:34 pm »

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« Reply #9854 on: January 13, 2012, 03:31:59 pm »

So the problem was the banks would've tanked and taken the rest of us with them if they did. While we DID have to prop up the banks; we didn't have to prop up the stupid executives who let them get in trouble in the first place. If you're too big to fail without taking the whole damn society with you, then you're too fucking big to exist....
Private company sinks but it must be kept afloat to keep the country running? Nationalize!

This is a conversation a bank CEO doesn't want to hear, and I don't really want to have.... Yes, this is my favored route, if we must give you trillions in ransom to keep the country together, then it sounds like a sale to me.... Me and what army? Funny you should say that.... [troop carriers parked outside, literal automatic weapons.... tanks].

I do believe Greed is one of seven deadly sins? Yours seems to have endangered the entire country, indeed the world.... My my, that "indefinite detention" you championed even of American Citizens.... You know what they say about being careful what you wish for, you ... just... might... get... it.... Oubliette is french for a dungeon, a place to forget you....

:( I really hope this isn't the logical outcome....
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