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Author Topic: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread  (Read 880241 times)

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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7890 on: December 04, 2011, 05:08:27 pm »

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It's used medicinally. As a topic anaesthethic, and coagulant, mostly.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7891 on: December 04, 2011, 05:14:10 pm »

You're thinking of novocaine, which is similar but not the same.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7892 on: December 04, 2011, 05:17:34 pm »

It could easily have its effect weakened or nullified if the person is immune to the similar substance of cocaine, though.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7893 on: December 04, 2011, 05:20:46 pm »

You're thinking of novocaine, which is similar but not the same.
No, I'm not. Cocaine is used as a topical anaesthethic and coagulant. I've seen it used in surgical settings.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7894 on: December 04, 2011, 08:07:40 pm »

Believe it or not, Cocaine is actually used in eye surgeries. I have never seen it used in any other type of surgery though. Unfortunately the article is formatted weirdly and I am very tired. If you press Ctrl + F for Find and type in "Eye" you'll see there is a part of the article detailing its surgical uses.

I do know the state medical board strictly monitors its manufacture of medical grade cocaine for surgical use and tracks it VERY carefully, for obvious reasons.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7895 on: December 05, 2011, 12:35:32 pm »

http://thedailywh.at/2011/12/05/say-what-now-of-the-day-22/
Muppets are now apparently being used to brainwash children. Fox news: fair and... oh, who the hell are we kidding here.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7896 on: December 05, 2011, 12:37:45 pm »

What do you mean "now"? Protip, anything anybody shows to a child could be argued to be brainwashing.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7897 on: December 05, 2011, 12:39:24 pm »

What do you mean "now"? Protip, anything anybody shows to a child could be argued to be brainwashing.

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Anyone trying to argue to me that showing my 20 month old daughter Teletubbies is brainwashing would struggle to make a good case.

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« Reply #7898 on: December 05, 2011, 12:42:25 pm »

Anyone trying to argue to me that showing my 20 month old daughter Teletubbies is brainwashing would struggle to make a good case.
Been done already. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Falwell#Teletubbies
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7899 on: December 05, 2011, 12:44:42 pm »

I watched Teletubbies and it made me very happy.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7900 on: December 05, 2011, 12:45:00 pm »

But.... thats just stupid. Its not as if they have recognisable gender anyway, let alone any kind of sexual identity.

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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7901 on: December 05, 2011, 01:56:35 pm »

I never actually watched Teletubbies, so I can't say for sure, but is it ever constructed to convey images like "sharing is good" and suchlike? I'll admit that I hadn't considered children that haven't developed the skills necessary to process a given message, which would provide an acceptable enough loophole. I'll have to rephrase it to saying that showing anything to a child that is comprehensible to the child could be argued to be brainwashing, because that's what teaching children is. My intended point is that it isn't spared the label of brainwashing just because you happen to like the message, and that as a result I don't think "this brainwashes the children" is sufficient justification for outrage at something.

You need something additional, such as the actual content or an extremely poor approach to the aforementioned teaching.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7902 on: December 05, 2011, 01:59:24 pm »

Teletubbies has a vauge positive humanistic messsage about being nice and stuff like that, but even to me it seems lke a bunch of rnadom stuff that just happens. My youngest daughter likes it as it is a bunch of noises and colours that moves - being a very young she likes anything like that and sure as hell doesnt understand the message within.

Oh, and apologies for viewing "brainwashed" in a negative loaded way. Seem to fall for loaded words like that a lot at the moment.
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« Reply #7903 on: December 05, 2011, 01:59:55 pm »

That old teletubbies thing makes me mad. First, obviously they have no sexuality, secondly teaching kids about homosexuality would an awesome thing in my mind. That male<->female crushes/whatnot can be shown in kids television but homosexual ones not enrages me. Damn our bigoted culture.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #7904 on: December 05, 2011, 02:10:55 pm »

Teletubbies has a vauge positive humanistic messsage about being nice and stuff like that, but even to me it seems lke a bunch of rnadom stuff that just happens. My youngest daughter likes it as it is a bunch of noises and colours that moves - being a very young she likes anything like that and sure as hell doesnt understand the message within.

Oh, and apologies for viewing "brainwashed" in a negative loaded way. Seem to fall for loaded words like that a lot at the moment.
Fair enough! And don't worry about the loaded way thing. I only actually considered that just now and there may be a lot of implications to it that I'm not okay with that I just haven't thought of. At any rate, I certainly do the same thing all the time, so.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.
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