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[MetalSlimeHunt]

Don't let your bloodthirst alter your thoughts on the matter. The people who run this camp deserve to be locked up for the rest of their lives, but killing them in a situation that perilously involves innocents risks executing someone who wasn't really involved, an act that cannot be rescinded or compensated for.

[DJ]

It's child abuse, plain and simple. The parents just need a decade in the slammer and a restraining order when they come out. The school staff, well, they've got a lot of counts of child abuse on their hands, should be enough for life sentence.

[Vector]

I can see that I've annoyed people.  I apologize.

[Megaman]

You probably didn't have to say that Vector, but what am I to judge the necessity of people's words? Being one of those gifted with selective apathy, I'm seeing that some of the people on here are jumping to rage. It is very simple reason that these camps exist, is that people believe such steps could suppress certain feelings or behaviors. It actually works on some individuals, however what is done to them is usually excessive. Death sentence? No, perhaps a few decades, or for the worst, life.

[scriver]

These people are guilty of what is effectively torture - systemised abuse in order to break down, brainwash and "reprogramme" their victims. They should be judged as such, whatever that translates to in American judicial culture.

[Africa]

I have a hard time believing a place like this would be allowed to exist if anybody in law enforcement had an inkling it existed. Was this story an expose on the place? Is it secret or something? Or does Utah really just not give a fuck?

[Megaman]

Or does Utah really just not give a fuck?

Most certainly.

[ein]

Utah is owned by the Mormons.

[Africa]

Yeah but I would imagine they have some kind of semi-legitimate law enforcement and it's not just some Wild West movie where anybody can just do whatever they want...

[nenjin]

When the people enforcing the laws also happen to be members of the Church, they laws can bend to a surprising degree. Well, not really bend, parental consent goes a long way. And taking on the Mormon Church in Utah...is taking on a multi-national corporation church on its home turf. I.e., good luck even getting elected. There are moderates in Utah that aren't religious...but I don't think they really challenge the status-quo. Once the Mormon Church legitimized itself, it was enough for moderates I think...despite all the non-Warren Jeffs stuff that goes on still.

[Zangi]

Note to self:
Merican Conservotism is just as crazy as it was before.  We need the LCS!  We need a slogan!

[Max White]

*Read story*
I don't understand how such a thing can happen. It just can't. If I saw these events in a movie, I would say the movie was being unrealistic. I mean, in all honesty, does this happen? Something just isn't registering here, as I can not conceive how people can be so morally bankrupt.

I feel sorry for the girl in the story, it is tragic, heart breaking, and rage inspiring, but I feel even more sorry for anybody that went through the same situation and came out worse then she did. The very idea that this sort of 'school' can exist is just as strange as anything from a clockwork orange, but much more terrifying, because they are trying to brainwash the innocent.

[Vector]

Yeah, this does happen.  It happened to one of the guys I was in a creative writing course with--not for being gay, but for "behavioral problems."  That's why I can say with some authority that the norm is busses =/

[Max White]

What country is this happening in, and why am I not hearing about some international authority trying to shut this down? This is the fucking 21st century, we are meant to be past this shit. Currently the generations older then mine look on there past with a tone of saddens for how they handled basic human rights, and as such I would very much like to be in a position now when many years from now, I can look back with pride and say we did things a little bit better, but I don't think I am going to have that honer now.

EDIT:
*Finishes reading the thread*
Well.
I'm pissed off. Give me a hammer and a skull to crack, and there will be blood.

[Heron TSG]

It happened in good old 'Murrica. Somewhere in Utah. Find your own hammer and lawyer.