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[forsaken1111]

One thing I found interesting was how the NPC's will chat about things you've done even if they're not directly tied to an objective. In the first part of the game I went into derelict row earlier than I should have and just killed every gang member there with some well-placed pistol shots (yay laser targeting upgraded headshots). I looted them all and walked back. A random office worker I talked to said "Did you hear someone went into Derelict Row and shot up all the ballers?" (ballers being the gang's name) I talked to him again and he said "Yeah it was on the news. What a bloodbath!"

[MorleyDev]

Sounds like your computer has some issues beyond the game. O.o

Yeah but like I said I've literally experimented with this.
1 Switch on Laptop.
2 Start recording with iTunes playing, no music caught in recording.
3 Start another game, none of it's sound caught in recording. Close game.
4 iTunes: no music caught in recording.
5 Start Dues Ex, sound caught in recording.
6 iTunes: music caught in recording.
7 Switch off laptop. Go to 1.

It's just weird.

Though as a game this is pretty awesome. Reminds me a lot of Alpha Protocol (right down to the boss fights), which is a good thing ^^ (And let's face it, Alpha Protocol was practically a spiritual successor to Dues Ex and VtM Bloodlines).

[ductape]

I hope we get something either mods or update that fixes the boss fights. I have seen all over the tubes that people are complaining about these, has Eidos said anything in response to this?

[Pnx]

I was amused: If you poke around enough you'll see multiple references to the fact that the 4 message inbox limit on computers is actually a security measure. Even to the point of them receiving warnings about their inbox being too full because it has 2/4 messages allowed.

Some computers have more than 4, you can scroll down past the first 4. There should be a counter telling you're on email 3/5 or something. Pay attention to that.

Awesome game incidentally, I was expecting it to be bad, but I'm pleasantly surprised. There are some rough edges though, the voice acting and the way some people move during conversation can be really painful. Sometimes I see other little things too, but honestly, it's a pretty good game.

[forsaken1111]

I was amused: If you poke around enough you'll see multiple references to the fact that the 4 message inbox limit on computers is actually a security measure. Even to the point of them receiving warnings about their inbox being too full because it has 2/4 messages allowed.

Some computers have more than 4, you can scroll down past the first 4. There should be a counter telling you're on email 3/5 or something. Pay attention to that.

Sorry no, I wasn't specific. This is a running gag in one specific area of the game, when you get into the medical tower. There are a lot of emails from one employee to another complaining about the limit and there are automated emails from the system saying the mailbox is nearing it's size limit at 2/4 messages. It's amusing.

[Vattic]

I got this last Thursday but haven't been able to sink much time into it. Having a good time so far but I'm kind of worried as I started meaning to play a combat build and ended up not really killing anyone all the way up to fighting Barrett. I'm stuck on him due to only having an upgraded silenced pistol to work with and most of my praxis spent on hacking augmentations. I might have to start over and a previous save might not be enough.

[forsaken1111]

I got this last Thursday but haven't been able to sink much time into it. Having a good time so far but I'm kind of worried as I started meaning to play a combat build and ended up not really killing anyone all the way up to fighting Barrett. I'm stuck on him due to only having an upgraded silenced pistol to work with and most of my praxis spent on hacking augmentations. I might have to start over and a previous save might not be enough.

Make liberal use of grenades and cover and you should be okay if you have enough ammo. I took him down with a pistol and a few EMP grenades.

[hemmingjay]

So in the game menu I noticed a message on the bottom saying something about an upcoming announcement, "be ready" 8/29 2200GMT. Any ideas?

[Bremen]

I don't mind the bossfights; I went stealth and while they were hard, they weren't frustrating. From what I've read one problem people seem to be having is that they assume a boss fight means a stand up fight, which is false; you can still use stealth in the boss fights and have them lose track of where you are (You can tell with the first one since he'll start throwing grenades at spots he thinks you might be hiding). I beat most of them by sneaking around and occasionally popping out to fire a few pistol rounds into the back of the bad guy's head, then hiding again.

[MagmaDeath]

Beaten it twice, 40 hours played.
First one, normal playthrough, stealth if possible, knockout if possible, lethal if not.

Second playthough, I never knocked out anyone, never killed anyone, and was never seen by anyone. It was quite fun, but I ended up with a ton of stuff from never using anything.
Which is why I ended the game with 25 frag mines, 15 emp mines, and 5 gas grenades. The funny thing is, despite me carrying around 3 guns, I only used the revolver. And even then, only actually shooting someone on the third boss/end of last.

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Its really a fun game, but some bits are kinda either extremely hard or very easy.

So how did you get through the first and other bosses without shooting them?

1st boss

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Chucked 3 frag mines down, chucked a barrel at him, and that was it. I spent a lot longer on him on my first playthough.

Second,

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 just destroyed the 4 Terminals/coolers or whatever the giant towers were, and that was it. You could actually win that fight without doing a thing other than running away if you can heal off the damage from her and the electricity, by just getting her to destroy them for you.

Third boss is

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The only one you really have to fight. Had a ton of trouble on my first playthough, as I had around 20 pistol bullets, took the "special" chip, to see what would happen, and my nonlethal stuff. Ended up just chain stun gunning him to death. Second playthough, I had a fully upgraded revolver, and killed him with around 20 bullets, in around 30 seconds.

4th boss

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Was ridiculously easy both times, and I really doubt anyone should need to shoot at this point. Either you have the codes, or the ability to hack, activate the terminal, sit around for a bit, shoot Zhao, win.

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Really, the only boss you have to fight face to face is the third, and he really isnt that hard if you come prepared. You can actually bring a turret you hacked into the bossfight to help you out, if you need it.

[SquidgyB]

has Eidos said anything in response to this?

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/08/in-defense-of-the-boss-battles-of-deus-ex-human-revolution.ars

e: sorry, ignore me - in my haste I though that was someone from Eidos - I'll leave the link here anyway

[dragonshardz]

You know, now that I think about it, I think Adam Jensen is Patient X (or he is related to Patient X).

In the beginning of the game, it only mentions Patient X's DNA and genes.

If you look around Sarif Industries, there's mention that more sample of Patient X's tissues becoming available - six months after Adam Jensen nearly dies.

When you go to the LIMB clinic, Jensen notes that he should be on Neuropoyzene by now, but the nurse lady says that his bionics and biotics are actually becoming more integrated - just like Patient X

[Bremen]

There's a series of sidequests where you find out more about Adam's background.

[Glowcat]

You know, now that I think about it, I think Adam Jensen is Patient X (or he is related to Patient X).

In the beginning of the game, it only mentions Patient X's DNA and genes.

If you look around Sarif Industries, there's mention that more sample of Patient X's tissues becoming available - six months after Adam Jensen nearly dies.

When you go to the LIMB clinic, Jensen notes that he should be on Neuropoyzene by now, but the nurse lady says that his bionics and biotics are actually becoming more integrated - just like Patient X

There are plenty more hints scattered throughout the game, such as Patient X being somebody very close to Megan, and other pieces of information that can be discovered if you snoop around enough.

This is actually...

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Not even a secret towards the end. There's a side mission where Adam meets the nurse who saved him from the genetic engineering facility where he was born and learns about his past. When you finally rescue Dr. Reed you confront her about using your DNA for her research, and later do the same with Sarif.

[Pnx]

Apparently I killed someone, despite being exceptionally careful not to kill anyone. I don't know how that works, unless robots/turrets count... Which they shouldn't.
Although there was that one point where:

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You save Malik, I blew up the robot it dropped with an EMP grenade, but I was worried I might have hit someone with the blast or something.