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Necro910

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Injecting via wounds
« on: June 02, 2011, 02:06:35 pm »

If I bought a barrel of giant cave spider venom, and smeared it all over a goblin who is cut up real bad, would he get infected?

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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2011, 02:13:48 pm »

I don't think so.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2011, 03:07:18 pm »

I've heard that being covered in nasty crap made your wounds more likely to get infected, so: possibly? You should test it. Wouldn't be too surprising considering venom-coated weapons and projectiles do inject their covering.
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2011, 03:30:22 pm »

I've heard that being covered in nasty crap made your wounds more likely to get infected, so: possibly? You should test it. Wouldn't be too surprising considering venom-coated weapons and projectiles do inject their covering.
...  there are currently tons of cave spiders in my caverns...

Thank you for this wonderful idea.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 04:40:48 pm »

I've heard that being covered in nasty crap made your wounds more likely to get infected, so: possibly? You should test it. Wouldn't be too surprising considering venom-coated weapons and projectiles do inject their covering.
That's what put the thought in my head.

Hmm...

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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 09:31:04 pm »

I'm not sure if goblins can get infections.  Creatures must be explicitly allowed to [GET_INFECTION_FROM_ROT] or otherwise they never get infections, like Bronze Colossus doesn't.  I'm also not sure if invaders will, or if only controllable creatures will, such as the case with starvation.  Either way, the cave spider poison will NOT work, because it's transmitted via injection, not contact.  Any contact syndrome can be dumped on someone though.  Assuming their armor doesn't protect them.

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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 09:43:21 pm »

I'm not sure if goblins can get infections.  Creatures must be explicitly allowed to [GET_INFECTION_FROM_ROT] or otherwise they never get infections, like Bronze Colossus doesn't.  I'm also not sure if invaders will, or if only controllable creatures will, such as the case with starvation.  Either way, the cave spider poison will NOT work, because it's transmitted via injection, not contact.  Any contact syndrome can be dumped on someone though.  Assuming their armor doesn't protect them.
You're thinking of a different tag that's similar. That tag causes infections from rotten limbs. The tag you meant gets infected wounds (Urist McCutToe has died from infection). Both are irrelevant in this case, as we're talking about poison.

What I'm asking is "If you smear venom on a goblin/elf's wounds, will he get the sickness?"

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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 09:48:36 pm »

Injection syndromes only seem to work if actually injected.  I've never tested with venom-coated weapons but I seem to remember that these did NOT work.  Either way, I'm positive that if an injection syndrome is spread on an open wound, it's not injected and doesn't qualify.  However, if a contact syndrome is spread on an open wound, or on unwounded flesh, it will have the full effect.

Cave Blobs cause slight swelling on contact, so your butcher and leather worker will hate them.
Giant Cave Spider Venom causes death when injected.  You can bathe in it without any trouble.

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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2011, 09:57:25 pm »

Injection syndromes only seem to work if actually injected.  I've never tested with venom-coated weapons but I seem to remember that these did NOT work.  Either way, I'm positive that if an injection syndrome is spread on an open wound, it's not injected and doesn't qualify.  However, if a contact syndrome is spread on an open wound, or on unwounded flesh, it will have the full effect.

Cave Blobs cause slight swelling on contact, so your butcher and leather worker will hate them.
Giant Cave Spider Venom causes death when injected.  You can bathe in it without any trouble.
How do the animal people's poison darts work then?  :-\

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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2011, 10:30:57 pm »

I'm not sure.  I'm still unclear on how coated weapons work, because there were conflicting reports about how they worked.

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Re: Injecting via wounds
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2011, 10:06:23 am »

If I bought a barrel of giant cave spider venom, and smeared it all over a goblin who is cut up real bad, would he get infected?

By the way, what method do you intend to use for applying it - with moving to trading post or is there something easier?
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2011, 10:08:17 am »

Poison coated weapons most certainly do work.

To elaborate, I've ventured into an abandoned fort with my adventurer, and found amphibian men being slaughtered by domons. I nicked 8 blowdarts covered in GCS venom and poked people with said darts. They became partially paralyzed after a while.
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2011, 10:09:08 am »

From what I recall, poison coated weapons DO work, but there's no way for anyone (even modders) to MAKE them for your dwarves.

I could be wrong but I think that's how it stands right now.
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2011, 10:10:38 am »

From what I recall, poison coated weapons DO work, but there's no way for anyone (even modders) to MAKE them for your dwarves.

I could be wrong but I think that's how it stands right now.
Wouldn't any items get coated in a substance if said substance was splashed in a tile with the items?
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2011, 10:48:00 am »

Going to dump some venom in barrel from merchants on a pile of weapons and bolts using this method. http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Gnomeblight
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