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[SmileyMan]

Having just started out on a big ol' lump of galena, I'd really appreciate being able to use the lead for something military.  Obviously weapons and armour wouldn't be very practical, but it out to be possible to make lead bolts for crossbows?

I'm not after recreating bullets, just trying to fix a problem - lots of lead and nothing else!

[tHe_silent_H]

just make them drink out of lead flasks. done(also lead flasks, heh)

Also, you can just mod them in

[FrisianDude]

-a big ol' lump of galena,
-lots of lead and nothing else!

I'm pretty sure Galena is also a silver ore and silver makes for good blunt weapons and bolts.

[SmileyMan]

-a big ol' lump of galena,
-lots of lead and nothing else!

I'm pretty sure Galena is also a silver ore and silver makes for good blunt weapons and bolts.

When you smelt galena, you have a 20% chance of silver.  You always get lead.  Silver doesn't make good bolts because they're classed as edge weapons.  It makes great maces and hammers.

Out of interest, how hard would it be to mod in lead bolts?

[jaxy15]

-a big ol' lump of galena,
-lots of lead and nothing else!

I'm pretty sure Galena is also a silver ore and silver makes for good blunt weapons and bolts.

When you smelt galena, you have a 20% chance of silver.  You always get lead.  Silver doesn't make good bolts because they're classed as edge weapons.  It makes great maces and hammers.

Out of interest, how hard would it be to mod in lead bolts?

Very easy. Just give lead the [ITEMS_AMMO] tag in inorganic_metal.

[katana]

Galena is 50% silver AFAIK...

[Naryar]

Galena is indeed 50% silver. Tetrahedrite is 20% silver.

[FrisianDude]

I think the edge weapon classification doesn't make much difference for projectiles; silver bolts always seemed among the better ones in my experience. :/

[SmileyMan]

Did a bit of testing in the arena.  Lead bolts are more of a subdual weapon than silver - silver bolts still cause a lot of cutting damage wherea lead bots do a lot of bruising and bonechipping.  In a fight between unarmoured dwarves, the leads beat the silvers very slightly, mainly due to collapsing due to pain and then being finished off very quickly.

[Number4]

Silver is a good bolt material, due to a big mass smashing into the target. I dunno if lead bolts were used, I do know that the romans used lead-tipped javelins (pila). They were designed to damage shields, yet I think those could be responsible for casualties all by themselves against lighter armored enemies.

[Mckee]

I may be incorrect, so if you know more than I do, I apologise, but I was lead (unintentional pun?) to believe that one reason for using the lead was because the softer metal and the design of the javalin made throwing them back difficult, because after throwing the heads were broken or bent. Not to say lead wouldnt be useful as a weapon (since it was clearly also effective) but perhaps when weapon wear is implemented, the softer nature of lead projectiles would make them somewhat less reusable than other metals.

[Number4]

Also correct. They stuck in the shields and bent there - and there was no time to remove them as a angry bunch of romans was usually following close behind. Quite good stuff.

I do not however think that retrieving and reusing the pila was a big problem for the organized romans, it just couldn't be done in the heat of the battle. Everything about a roman legion was planned carefully, so I'm sure there were ways to ensure a steady supply of javelins.

[Korgus]

Lead bolts probably wouldn't even go through bare skin. Worst they could do is bruise you.

[Os Q]

Lead will be useful if and when slings are implemented. Some slingers in the ancient times used lead bullets which might be more effective than just small stones. Some of them also used ceramic bullets IIRC

[Dwarftosser]

Lead bolts probably wouldn't even go through bare skin. Worst they could do is bruise you.

and crack your bones.

....Great, now I have Eddie Izzard stuck in my head.