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[GreatWyrmGold]

...Er, I think that came out wrong.

I modded in (or tried to) giant badger people. However, whenever I try to load the arena, DF crashes. There isn't even anything useful in the errorlog! 

Raws:

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[CREATURE:BADGER MAN, GIANT]
[COPY_TAGS_FROM:BADGER MAN]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:GIANT]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC]
[APPLY_CURRENT_CREATURE_VARIATION]
[GO_TO_END]
[CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC:2040]
[GO_TO_START]
[NAME:giant badger man:giant badger men:giant badger man]
[GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:giant badger man cub:giant badger man cubs]
[DESCRIPTION:A huge monster the shape of a badger man.  It is ferocious in combat.]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:15:25]
[CLUSTER_NUMBER:5:11]
[CREATURE_TILE:'B']
[COLOR:7:0:0]
[PET_EXOTIC]
[PETVALUE:500]
[PET]
[GO_TO_END]
[SELECT_CASTE:MALE]
[CASTE_NAME:giant badger man:giant badger men:giant badger man]
[SELECT_CASTE:FEMALE]
[CASTE_NAME:giant badger woman:giant badger women:giant badger woman]
[PREFSTRING:great size]
[PREFSTRING:underground communities]
[PREFSTRING:striped faces]
[PREFSTRING:terrifying weaponry]Most of this was just copied from giant badgers.
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I need help! Please?

[Trapezohedron]

...Er, I think that came out wrong.

I modded in (or tried to) giant badger people. However, whenever I try to load the arena, DF crashes. There isn't even anything useful in the errorlog! 

Raws:

Code: [Select]

[CREATURE:BADGER MAN, GIANT]
[COPY_TAGS_FROM:BADGER MAN]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:GIANT]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC]
[APPLY_CURRENT_CREATURE_VARIATION]
[GO_TO_END]
[CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC:2040]
[GO_TO_START]
[NAME:giant badger man:giant badger men:giant badger man]
[GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:giant badger man cub:giant badger man cubs]
[DESCRIPTION:A huge monster the shape of a badger man.  It is ferocious in combat.]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:15:25]
[CLUSTER_NUMBER:5:11]
[CREATURE_TILE:'B']
[COLOR:7:0:0]
[PET_EXOTIC]
[PETVALUE:500]
[PET]
[GO_TO_END]
[SELECT_CASTE:MALE]
[CASTE_NAME:giant badger man:giant badger men:giant badger man]
[SELECT_CASTE:FEMALE]
[CASTE_NAME:giant badger woman:giant badger women:giant badger woman]
[PREFSTRING:great size]
[PREFSTRING:underground communities]
[PREFSTRING:striped faces]
[PREFSTRING:terrifying weaponry]Most of this was just copied from giant badgers.
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I need help! Please?

I'm not too sure of how COPY_TAGS works, but you have an error.

Replace [CREATURE:BADGER MAN, GIANT] with [CREATURE:BADGER_MAN_GIANT], that should solve one of your problems.

[Talanic]

I don't know of GO_TO_START or why it would be there.  Same with GO_TO_END.  Considering that there's no nesting or break statements, if that were a loop, it'd be an instant crash because one of the first tags in it sends it to the start of the file.

If you're using it as it appears in a file I don't know of, carry on.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I'm not too sure of how COPY_TAGS works, but you have an error.

Replace [CREATURE:BADGER MAN, GIANT] with [CREATURE:BADGER_MAN_GIANT], that should solve one of your problems.

Actually, badger men are [CREATURE:BADGER MAN] and giant badgers are [BAGDER, GIANT]. So I doubt that that's the problem.

I don't know of GO_TO_START or why it would be there.  Same with GO_TO_END.  Considering that there's no nesting or break statements, if that were a loop, it'd be an instant crash because one of the first tags in it sends it to the start of the file.

If you're using it as it appears in a file I don't know of, carry on.

Yeah, that's just like the GB raws.


 

[Trapezohedron]

I'm not too sure of how COPY_TAGS works, but you have an error.

Replace [CREATURE:BADGER MAN, GIANT] with [CREATURE:BADGER_MAN_GIANT], that should solve one of your problems.

Actually, badger men are [CREATURE:BADGER MAN] and giant badgers are [BAGDER, GIANT]. So I doubt that that's the problem.

I attempted to scrounge up the BAT_MAN creature, and I have noticed a lack of body tokens. Maybe this will fix it?

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[GO_TO_TAG:BODY]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:BODY]
[APPLY_CURRENT_CREATURE_VARIATION]
[BODY:HUMANOID_FLIER:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:SKULL:4FINGERS:4TOES:MOUTH:EYELIDS:CHEEKS:GENERIC_TEETH_WITH_LARGE_EYE_TEETH:RIBCAGE]
Of course, modify those. We don't want gigantic flying winged humanoid badgers now, do we?

[TomiTapio]

Umm... Don't Remove BODY? That seems just wrong. Do not use creature variations if you're having trouble, just edit a copy of the original creature into your new thing. (go_to_end is useful for select tissue, select material, select caste statements)
Also, I think [CV_REMOVE_TAG:CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC] attempts to remove a tag from the creature, not from the CV template.

[Raptor_a22]

I'd remove the spaces.
In my own experience in coding various programs and files, spaces create problems. Use underscores instead.

Otherwise, check if all the types match up. If you've copied it from the badger entry, it might still be an animal, rather than a humanoid.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I'd remove the spaces.
In my own experience in coding various programs and files, spaces create problems. Use underscores instead.

Otherwise, check if all the types match up. If you've copied it from the badger entry, it might still be an animal, rather than a humanoid.

Copied from the badger man.

I'm not too sure of how COPY_TAGS works, but you have an error.

Replace [CREATURE:BADGER MAN, GIANT] with [CREATURE:BADGER_MAN_GIANT], that should solve one of your problems.

Actually, badger men are [CREATURE:BADGER MAN] and giant badgers are [BAGDER, GIANT]. So I doubt that that's the problem.

I attempted to scrounge up the BAT_MAN creature, and I have noticed a lack of body tokens. Maybe this will fix it?

Code: [Select]

[GO_TO_TAG:BODY]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:BODY]
[APPLY_CURRENT_CREATURE_VARIATION]
[BODY:HUMANOID_FLIER:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:SKULL:4FINGERS:4TOES:MOUTH:EYELIDS:CHEEKS:GENERIC_TEETH_WITH_LARGE_EYE_TEETH:RIBCAGE]
Of course, modify those. We don't want gigantic flying winged humanoid badgers now, do we?

Of course, bat men have a different body shape than badger/rat/lizard/etc men.
Also, you forgot "giant."

Umm... Don't Remove BODY? That seems just wrong. Do not use creature variations if you're having trouble, just edit a copy of the original creature into your new thing. (go_to_end is useful for select tissue, select material, select caste statements)
Also, I think [CV_REMOVE_TAG:CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC] attempts to remove a tag from the creature, not from the CV template.

Then, A. Why is it "CV_REMOVE_TAG", B. Why is it CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC, a variation tag, and C. Why does it matter? Giant badgers have that tag.

I'd remove the spaces.
In my own experience in coding various programs and files, spaces create problems. Use underscores instead.

Otherwise, check if all the types match up. If you've copied it from the badger entry, it might still be an animal, rather than a humanoid.

So do references to nonexistent files or creatures or whatnot.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Erm...Anyone want to help?

[Reelyanoob]

Erm...Anyone want to help?

Maye you're biting off too much with one mod.

Try starting again from first principles here. Make an exact copy of Badger Man raws, call it giant badger man, and load in aena. Try this rather than you're own variation of Badger Man (vary it from Badger directly, as Badger Man and Giant Badger do). Badger Man is already a CV of Badger, nesting a CV in a CV sounds like too much can go wrong.

Once you have Badger Man copy working, THEN modify that, one tag at a time (taking inspiration from Giant Badger). Always keep backup of last working version.

[Eagle0600]

Erm...Anyone want to help?

Everyone wanted to help, but you ignored their advice entirely.

For myself, I wouldn't be looking at your new raw entry without making sure that it's the problem. Remove it and see what happens. Second, I would definitely remove those spaces. You say they definitely don't cause the problem, and you're probably right, but you didn't even try to change it. I'm going to try to make giant badger men on my end and change things one at a time until I find out what breaks it.

edit:
On a hunch, I copied your creature into the game without modifications, and it didn't crash when I entered the arena. However, it displayed with the name "nothing" in the creature list and crashed when I tried to spawn it.

Due to this, I have determined that there are, in fact, two problems, not one. One is with your creature, the other is not, but probably has something to do with the raw file you put it in. Can I please see the entire text content for the file, as well as it's file-name?

edit2:
Stick this in the raw file AFTER badger men (I would put it after giant badgers too, for neatness).

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[CREATURE:BADGER MAN, GIANT]
[COPY_TAGS_FROM:BADGER MAN]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:GIANT]
[DESCRIPTION:A huge humanoid with the head and stripes of a badger.]
[GO_TO_START]
[NAME:giant badger man:giant badger men:giant badger man]
[GO_TO_END]
[SELECT_CASTE:MALE]
[CASTE_NAME:giant badger man:giant badger men:giant badger man]
[SELECT_CASTE:FEMALE]
[CASTE_NAME:giant badger woman:giant badger women:giant badger woman]
[APPLY_CURRENT_CREATURE_VARIATION]
Tested and working, as well as kicking ass. One thing to note is that the giant template makes things twice the size, but giant badgers are twenty times the size of a normal badger, thanks to this:

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   [CV_REMOVE_TAG:CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC]
   [APPLY_CURRENT_CREATURE_VARIATION] <- this line isn't important to consider right now, the others are
   [GO_TO_END]
   [CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC:2040]
The giant badger men I've given you are twice the size of badger men, which are already much larger than badgers. Done some testing, and they'll still kick a normal badger man's ass any day of the week. Good day sir, and may you listen to other people when they give you advice.

All that being said, however, I figured out what the "nothing" problem was and it had to do with the fact that I had my definition in a different file, and it came alphabetically before the creature_temperate that you find the badger-men in. It has to come after, so I put it in the same file to be sure. After testing your own version after fixing my problem, it turns out that your raw definition has nothing wrong with it (except that it's a horrible mess and about 10x the size I would make it). As I said initially, "For myself, I wouldn't be looking at your new raw entry without making sure that it's the problem."

[Pan]

...Er, I think that came out wrong.

 It sure did. Thought this was another one of those 'I modded in a **insert horrible creature here**' thread.

 And uh, sorry I got nothing to contribute.

[Eagle0600]

For those who didn't read, the tl;dr of my post up there is that his definition is not the problem, though it may be related. His definition works in my game.

That said, it's clunky, overly-large, and 10x the size I would make it.

[Hitty40]

WELL_ITS_NOT_HARD_REALLY

[Lagslayer]

Isn't it obvious? You made them so badass that it killed the game. Either that or the game realized it would die and shut down before the super badgers could do their damage.