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[Murphy]

Doesn't imply there's only one world either.
But I stand corrected - its every region is unique and the traits may vary.

[Girlinhat]

Hmm, fair enough.  Yet, most things are identical except for the landscape.  I'm looking forward to the time that all creatures can get a small amount of random wiggle in their raws.

[Yoink]

Ohmygosh... Just imagine, if we all submitted our favourite worlds regions, stuck 'em together into one world and created... Oh Armok it would be beautiful. [/derail]

[NobodyPro]

IIRC, kobolds don't have tails. I fixed it anyway .

[Dave1004]

Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.

THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.

Lrn2fantasynub

[Eddren]

Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.

THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.

Lrn2fantasynub

Kobolds are bipedal, dog-like creatures with fur. They aren't lizards.
Lrn2fantasynub.
And, more importantly,
Lrn2notuseoverusedmemesinaplacethatdoesn'tembracememesnub.

[Dave1004]

Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.

THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.

Lrn2fantasynub

Kobolds are bipedal, dog-like creatures with fur. They aren't lizards.
Lrn2fantasynub.
And, more importantly,
Lrn2notuseoverusedmemesinaplacethatdoesn'tembracememesnub.

First: What's a meme?

Second: You obviously don't know fantasy. J.R Tolkien made fantasy creatures what they are; - Dwarves are short, hairy bearded midgets, elves are tall, fair-skinned, pointy-eared freaks, orcs are large, muscular and grey-green, goblins are kinda like small, pure green orcs (Without the muscles), and Kobolds are small, scaly creatures.

Both from the Dungeons & Dragons universe AND J.R Tolkien's depicts kobolds as what I said. The large, dog-like creatures are called GNOLLS.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Kobold&gbv=2&oq=Kobold&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1521l2124l0l2202l6l4l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0

Long like, ugh. It's google images. Almost 95% of the kobolds there are scaled.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Warcraft+3+gnoll&gbv=2&oq=Warcraft+3+gnoll&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=207l2216l0l2328l16l8l0l0l0l0l464l997l2-2.0.1l3l0#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Gnoll&oq=Gnoll&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=0l0l1l4245l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c597970cbae8f806&biw=1920&bih=1042

THAT is a gnoll. A small-medium sized hairy, dog-like creature.

Jesus, you kids never know fantasy.

[Necro910]

Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.

THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.

Lrn2fantasynub

Kobolds are bipedal, dog-like creatures with fur. They aren't lizards.
Lrn2fantasynub.
And, more importantly,
Lrn2notuseoverusedmemesinaplacethatdoesn'tembracememesnub.

First: What's a meme?

Second: You obviously don't know fantasy. J.R Tolkien made fantasy creatures what they are; - Dwarves are short, hairy bearded midgets, elves are tall, fair-skinned, pointy-eared freaks, orcs are large, muscular and grey-green, goblins are kinda like small, pure green orcs (Without the muscles), and Kobolds are small, scaly creatures.

Both from the Dungeons & Dragons universe AND J.R Tolkien's depicts kobolds as what I said. The large, dog-like creatures are called GNOLLS.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Kobold&gbv=2&oq=Kobold&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1521l2124l0l2202l6l4l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0

Long like, ugh. It's google images. Almost 95% of the kobolds there are scaled.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Warcraft+3+gnoll&gbv=2&oq=Warcraft+3+gnoll&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=207l2216l0l2328l16l8l0l0l0l0l464l997l2-2.0.1l3l0#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Gnoll&oq=Gnoll&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=0l0l1l4245l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c597970cbae8f806&biw=1920&bih=1042

THAT is a gnoll. A small-medium sized hairy, dog-like creature.

Jesus, you kids never know fantasy.

Read the Dwarf Fortress description.

:|

[Dave1004]

Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.

THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.

Lrn2fantasynub

Kobolds are bipedal, dog-like creatures with fur. They aren't lizards.
Lrn2fantasynub.
And, more importantly,
Lrn2notuseoverusedmemesinaplacethatdoesn'tembracememesnub.

First: What's a meme?

Second: You obviously don't know fantasy. J.R Tolkien made fantasy creatures what they are; - Dwarves are short, hairy bearded midgets, elves are tall, fair-skinned, pointy-eared freaks, orcs are large, muscular and grey-green, goblins are kinda like small, pure green orcs (Without the muscles), and Kobolds are small, scaly creatures.

Both from the Dungeons & Dragons universe AND J.R Tolkien's depicts kobolds as what I said. The large, dog-like creatures are called GNOLLS.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Kobold&gbv=2&oq=Kobold&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1521l2124l0l2202l6l4l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0

Long like, ugh. It's google images. Almost 95% of the kobolds there are scaled.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Warcraft+3+gnoll&gbv=2&oq=Warcraft+3+gnoll&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=207l2216l0l2328l16l8l0l0l0l0l464l997l2-2.0.1l3l0#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Gnoll&oq=Gnoll&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=0l0l1l4245l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c597970cbae8f806&biw=1920&bih=1042

THAT is a gnoll. A small-medium sized hairy, dog-like creature.

Jesus, you kids never know fantasy.

Read the Dwarf Fortress description.

:|

DF didn't create fantasy. I tend to go with the general opinion, rather than one game's views.

Plus, admit it; - DF is only for people with fetishes for either

A. Dwarves.
B. Magma.
C. Killing Kittens.
D. Kobolds.

BTW, I fall into category C.

[Necro910]

Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.

THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.

Lrn2fantasynub

Kobolds are bipedal, dog-like creatures with fur. They aren't lizards.
Lrn2fantasynub.
And, more importantly,
Lrn2notuseoverusedmemesinaplacethatdoesn'tembracememesnub.

First: What's a meme?

Second: You obviously don't know fantasy. J.R Tolkien made fantasy creatures what they are; - Dwarves are short, hairy bearded midgets, elves are tall, fair-skinned, pointy-eared freaks, orcs are large, muscular and grey-green, goblins are kinda like small, pure green orcs (Without the muscles), and Kobolds are small, scaly creatures.

Both from the Dungeons & Dragons universe AND J.R Tolkien's depicts kobolds as what I said. The large, dog-like creatures are called GNOLLS.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Kobold&gbv=2&oq=Kobold&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1521l2124l0l2202l6l4l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0

Long like, ugh. It's google images. Almost 95% of the kobolds there are scaled.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Warcraft+3+gnoll&gbv=2&oq=Warcraft+3+gnoll&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=207l2216l0l2328l16l8l0l0l0l0l464l997l2-2.0.1l3l0#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Gnoll&oq=Gnoll&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=0l0l1l4245l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c597970cbae8f806&biw=1920&bih=1042

THAT is a gnoll. A small-medium sized hairy, dog-like creature.

Jesus, you kids never know fantasy.

Read the Dwarf Fortress description.

:|

DF didn't create fantasy. I tend to go with the general opinion, rather than one game's views.

Plus, admit it; - DF is only for people with fetishes for either

A. Dwarves.
B. Magma.
C. Killing Kittens.
D. Kobolds.

BTW, I fall into category C.

...
We're having a cutebold discussion about DF kobolds, not the lizards in D&D

I fall into catagories B C and D.

Dorfs are cool too :3

[Girlinhat]

So, wait...  Did you seriously just say "I don't care what the game says, this is how DnD and Tolkien put it, so that's how it is."

If the game defines a cyclops with wings, are you going to ignore it as it flies over your walls?

Also, why the hell is Tolkien (one individual) and DnD (one money-hungry franchise) able to define things like that?  A big part of fantasy, perhaps the biggest and only part, is that a huge chunk of it is imagination.  If you're allowing one person or one board game to limit your views, then you're doing a serious discredit to yourself and to gaming as a whole.  You should, literally, be ashamed of yourself.  I'm not just saying that to be cute either.  If you have sunk so low that you gobble down whatever one person said and spout it as solid truth, then you are living in one of the worst ways imaginable.  Tolkien doesn't matter.  Tolkien was one guy who wrote a popular book series and that should NEVER allow anyone to have that much sway over your opinions.  He was just a guy, born raised and died like anyone else, but people assign him a godlike status because he made fantasy into mainstream.  Same with DnD.  Great game, sure, but it's just a game.  The rules and the species and descriptions were written by someone sitting in a studio, they weren't hand-delivered by the Fantasy Deity and set in stone as "this is the only way fantasy exists".

You're free to disagree with us.  Kobolds don't have to be cute for you.  But for you to say "it's impossible for kobolds to have fur" is the most blatant pile of BS that I've heard in the longest time and you should REALLY try to broaden your views a little.  My Kobolds are fuzzy and they noserub.  Yours don't have to be.  You're free to disagree, but you're not allowed to tell me that my view of of things is wrong, not when the entire creature is purely defined by imagination.  If this was a real graphical game then you could point and say "those are horns" but you cannot point at a "k" and say "those are scales".  DF's utter lack of hard descriptions means that it's up for the player to envision the scenario, but you don't seem to get that at all.  You've let a man 40 years dead tell you what to think.

[Karnewarrior]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.

THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.

Lrn2fantasynub

Kobolds are bipedal, dog-like creatures with fur. They aren't lizards.
Lrn2fantasynub.
And, more importantly,
Lrn2notuseoverusedmemesinaplacethatdoesn'tembracememesnub.

First: What's a meme?

Second: You obviously don't know fantasy. J.R Tolkien made fantasy creatures what they are; - Dwarves are short, hairy bearded midgets, elves are tall, fair-skinned, pointy-eared freaks, orcs are large, muscular and grey-green, goblins are kinda like small, pure green orcs (Without the muscles), and Kobolds are small, scaly creatures.

Both from the Dungeons & Dragons universe AND J.R Tolkien's depicts kobolds as what I said. The large, dog-like creatures are called GNOLLS.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Kobold&gbv=2&oq=Kobold&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1521l2124l0l2202l6l4l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0

Long like, ugh. It's google images. Almost 95% of the kobolds there are scaled.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Warcraft+3+gnoll&gbv=2&oq=Warcraft+3+gnoll&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=207l2216l0l2328l16l8l0l0l0l0l464l997l2-2.0.1l3l0#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Gnoll&oq=Gnoll&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=0l0l1l4245l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c597970cbae8f806&biw=1920&bih=1042

THAT is a gnoll. A small-medium sized hairy, dog-like creature.

Jesus, you kids never know fantasy.

Read the Dwarf Fortress description.

:|

DF didn't create fantasy. I tend to go with the general opinion, rather than one game's views.

Plus, admit it; - DF is only for people with fetishes for either

A. Dwarves.
B. Magma.
C. Killing Kittens.
D. Kobolds.

BTW, I fall into category C.

...
We're having a cutebold discussion about DF kobolds, not the lizards in D&D

I fall into catagories B C and D.

Dorfs are cool too :3

Dude. What Toady says goes in Toady's universe. _{Which actually means our Kobolds are little sadistic monkeys so we can't really tell you off for that...} Everyone has different headcanon, don't try and impose yours on us; the last guy who did...

We don't talk about Vader22 anymore.


NINJA'D by Girlinhat going off on a motherfucker. Goddamn, girl.

[thehippopotamus]

My what a civilized conversation! Anyway, the game has ascii graphics, you can imagine a kobold to be whatever the hell you want it to be, its what makes games like DF so great. For example, I prefer to think of them as small, ratlike humanoids equally filled with greed and terror, it fits their behavior well after all... Oh, and yes I'd hug one, that is if it wasn't almost certain to stab me if I tried.

[EveryZig]

If you are playing a game like DnD and you never make anything up, you are doing it wrong.
And on variations of fantasy creatures, we are already diverging from Tolkien with the fact that female dwarfs appear ever. And the cannibal elves.

Besides, murderous little lizard creatures can still be cute.


>Plus, admit it; - DF is only for people with fetishes for either...
You forgot elaborate death traps, pointless doomsday devices, and Menacing Spikes.
(I am a death trap lover myself.)

[Necro910]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.

THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.

Lrn2fantasynub

Kobolds are bipedal, dog-like creatures with fur. They aren't lizards.
Lrn2fantasynub.
And, more importantly,
Lrn2notuseoverusedmemesinaplacethatdoesn'tembracememesnub.

First: What's a meme?

Second: You obviously don't know fantasy. J.R Tolkien made fantasy creatures what they are; - Dwarves are short, hairy bearded midgets, elves are tall, fair-skinned, pointy-eared freaks, orcs are large, muscular and grey-green, goblins are kinda like small, pure green orcs (Without the muscles), and Kobolds are small, scaly creatures.

Both from the Dungeons & Dragons universe AND J.R Tolkien's depicts kobolds as what I said. The large, dog-like creatures are called GNOLLS.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Kobold&gbv=2&oq=Kobold&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1521l2124l0l2202l6l4l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0

Long like, ugh. It's google images. Almost 95% of the kobolds there are scaled.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Warcraft+3+gnoll&gbv=2&oq=Warcraft+3+gnoll&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=207l2216l0l2328l16l8l0l0l0l0l464l997l2-2.0.1l3l0#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Gnoll&oq=Gnoll&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=0l0l1l4245l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c597970cbae8f806&biw=1920&bih=1042

THAT is a gnoll. A small-medium sized hairy, dog-like creature.

Jesus, you kids never know fantasy.

Read the Dwarf Fortress description.

:|

DF didn't create fantasy. I tend to go with the general opinion, rather than one game's views.

Plus, admit it; - DF is only for people with fetishes for either

A. Dwarves.
B. Magma.
C. Killing Kittens.
D. Kobolds.

BTW, I fall into category C.

...
We're having a cutebold discussion about DF kobolds, not the lizards in D&D

I fall into catagories B C and D.

Dorfs are cool too :3

Dude. What Toady says goes in Toady's universe. _{Which actually means our Kobolds are little sadistic monkeys so we can't really tell you off for that...} Everyone has different headcanon, don't try and impose yours on us; the last guy who did...

We don't talk about Vader22 anymore.


NINJA'D by Girlinhat going off on a motherfucker. Goddamn, girl.

Then why the hell are you yelling at me?

I already said the DF kobolds have fur and doglike ears.