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[nordak]

Ok, just dug down to a magma tube, I have breached the tube at the side to create a lava fuel room.  I have a room above with channeled holes to the magma room.  I try to create magma smelters and forges... but what is this... they are not available to construct.  Unsure if I have run into a glitch or if I am doing it wrong, I usually have no problems getting the magma industry up...

[Marthnn]

You might need to recieve the magma sea discovery message. Before then, looks like your dwarves don't know what they can do with magma.

[Ultimuh]

You might need to recieve the magma sea discovery message. Before then, looks like your dwarves don't know what they can do with magma.

The best way to do so is throwing down an unpopular dorf down the pipe.
Preferably a noble, would some around here say.

[khearn]

You might need to recieve the magma sea discovery message. Before then, looks like your dwarves don't know what they can do with magma.

The best way to do so is throwing down an unpopular dorf down the pipe.
Preferably a noble, would some around here say.

Kittens work just as well if you don't have any dwarves you want to dump. They're also easier to drop, just define a pit zone and select Mr. Fluffles the intrepid lava explorer.

[nordak]

thanks, looks like like I'll dump a dog, dwarves are in short supply as a seige is intercepting my migrants...

[wlerin]

Dump them from a few z-levels above the surface of the lava, if possible. Otherwise I've found they drown before falling very far.

[Naryar]

^^Yes, if you drop a creature from the surface of the lava they will stay 1 z-level lower. Well burn to death quickly if not fire immune and if temp is on, and just keep swimming in lava if temp is off.

If you drop creatures from 1 Z-level or more into lava, they will descend straight to the end and your dog will probably drown/burn to death at the level of the magma flow.

[elpizo]

what's special with the magma flow anyway? i'd like to know

[evileeyore]

You might need to recieve the magma sea discovery message. Before then, looks like your dwarves don't know what they can do with magma.

The best way to do so is throwing down an unpopular dorf down the pipe.
Preferably a noble, would some around here say.

As every one knows, Nobles are Genius Lave Explorers.

[FrisianDude]

You don't even have to throw a sapient down it, you can drop like a piece of floor or something and it should work. Or a Goblin.

[ferok]

Could it just be that the fuel room hasn't reached 4/7 or whatever is necessary?

[Marthnn]

Could it just be that the fuel room hasn't reached 4/7 or whatever is necessary?

No, you should be able to build magma furnaces and forges and stuff regardless of 4/7 magma under the construction site. The workshop simply won't be functional until there's enough magma under it.

Cats, wonderfully Intrepid Lava Explorers... I like that title.

[FuzzyZergling]

what's special with the magma flow anyway? i'd like to know

It destroys any item falling on it from above, and is unminable.

[elpizo]

well, any magma is unminable so ,hum ,ya, so that means even magma resistant stuff get destroyed there?

[Reelyanoob]

If it falls onto "Magma Flow" anything will be destroyed.

There are "tricks" for dealing with Magma flow though: Pump all the magma away from the SMR, channel a hole into the SMR, then floor over the channel and drop a cave-in onto it. Trust me, this lets you tunnel into the SMR (only works for tiles which are not fully revealed, it's ok if you can see the top).

I had best results when putting the floor down, then a support on top of the floor, and a natural wall above the support. This blasted right through the (already channelled) SMR into the HFS area, when the lever was pulled.

When I "dangled" the walls with a support from above, then the SMR "ate" multiple z-levels of rock wall, but still became normal rock: i.e. it plugged the channelled gap only but didn't breach right into HFS. Somehow, this way, that single SMR tile ate multiple z-levels of natural rock, leaving only a single tile's worth. Note that I had to channel then floor over the SMR tile before this worked.

I developed the above methods because I had a map with no "tubes" and I wanted to explore...so I got creative.