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[G-Flex]

It's a chanoine who invented it, that's what he meant.

Indeed, and the Catholic church embraced the idea before the scientific community did, because the Big Bang is a lot more congruous with scripture than the "eternal universe", which was the scientific fashion at the time.

Which... is completely coincidence. That doesn't mean that the Catholic Church supports science (granted, in many ways they do these days), just that a theory showed up that happened to match their beliefs well enough and which also happened to be shown to be scientifically accurate.

It was indeed a priest who conceived of the theory as well, but he did so using scientific research, not divine revelation.

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I believe because I feel the presence of God like I feel gravity and the air flowing through my lungs. It's just a force of nature for me.

Urist McAnderson digs up a rock, then finds its made of digital codes and meaning nothing;
Urist McSmith strikes the keyboard with DI, DD, enter, enter, and finds he can make a fortress and everything out of nothing.

Hence I am a Zenist, as much as I am Urist McBudda. 

[Siquo]

Which... is completely coincidence. [...] a priest [...] using scientific research, not divine revelation.

Contradiction! HAH! I WIN AN INTERNET!

No, I know what you mean, but the point was they don't buy the 6000-yr old earth thing. They even said that the earth revolves around the sun. Recently, admitted, but that goes directly against scripture, so that they did it at all is pretty impressive. Being slow to accept new insights is not necessarily a bad thing. Science has its fads and wrong turns, as well.

[G-Flex]

Of course, this is the Catholic Church we're talking about, which is completely unwilling to modify certain things now that papal infallibility is more codified and structured. Granted, a lot of those things (birth control, for instance) have basically nothing to do with scripture in the first place.

[Sordid]

Being slow to accept new insights is not necessarily a bad thing. Science has its fads and wrong turns, as well.

That's a valid point, but there's a difference between slow and glacial. The Catholic church only accepts scientific facts that contradict their dogma when it is so monumentally embarrassing to hold onto the bullshit that they just can't take it any longer. Typically that's several hundred years.

[Bohandas]

Being slow to accept new insights is not necessarily a bad thing. Science has its fads and wrong turns, as well.

That's a valid point, but there's a difference between slow and glacial. The Catholic church only accepts scientific facts that contradict their dogma when it is so monumentally embarrassing to hold onto the bullshit that they just can't take it any longer. Typically that's several hundred years.

Still better than many other denominations.

[Siquo]

Typically that's several hundred years.

Which is not much if you've been around for a thousand. In our accelerating world the distance between church and reality is becoming greater and greater every day, but don't mistake them for being stupid: They know this, but it's hard to keep your credibility while changing your position for a religion like that.

which is completely unwilling to modify certain things

My point is this is not true. It just takes a longer time. And sometimes not even a hundred years.

[Sordid]

Which is not much if you've been around for a thousand. In our accelerating world the distance between church and reality is becoming greater and greater every day, but don't mistake them for being stupid: They know this, but it's hard to keep your credibility while changing your position for a religion like that.

I'd say holding on to nonsense that everyone knows is nonsense hurts their credibility more.

Still better than many other denominations.

True, but I don't see how that's an excuse. If you got 20 points on a test then yeah, you did better than the kid who only got 15. But it's still a fail if the passing grade is 30.

[Leafsnail]

Which... is completely coincidence. [...] a priest [...] using scientific research, not divine revelation.

Contradiction! HAH! I WIN AN INTERNET!

...I don't see how this is a contradiction, since he was clearly referring to two different things with those two statements. The first refers to the Catholic Church as a whole (it was a coincidence that the Big Bang theory lined up with their beliefs, so they accepted it) and the second refers to the specific priest (who performed scientific research to come up with the theory in the first place).

Which is not much if you've been around for a thousand. In our accelerating world the distance between church and reality is becoming greater and greater every day, but don't mistake them for being stupid: They know this, but it's hard to keep your credibility while changing your position for a religion like that.

That might clear them of stupidity, but that would imply dishonesty (and in some cases dishonesty that could lead to suffering) and just plain being wrong.

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Just wondering any Buddhist here? Why every religion discussion has to be about Church and Christianity? 

On behave of the other 3/4 of the people on earth.

[Glowcat]

Just wondering any Buddhist here? Why every religion discussion has to be about Church and Christianity? 

I'd be a Buddhist, if I did not kill the Buddha.

[ECrownofFire]

Just wondering any Buddhist here? Why every religion discussion has to be about Church and Christianity? 

On behave of the other 3/4 of the people on earth.

I can agree with that, so many people seem to be stuck on Christianity, completely ignoring every other possibility of religion. Rarely you'll see mention of Judaism or Islam, but even then that's only in any discussion on the history of Christianity. All that seems to exist is Christianity and Atheism, no other options, nothing.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The reason you mostly see Christianity and Atheism in debates is due to the fact that the areas of the world where internet availability is commonplace are almost always regions where the majority is Christianity and the largest minority are the non-religious. Everything else is too rare in society to be very relevant to the lives of the debaters.

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The reason you mostly see Christianity and Atheism in debates is due to the fact that the areas of the world where internet availability is commonplace are almost always regions where the majority is Christianity and the largest minority are the non-religious. Everything else is too rare in society to be very relevant to the lives of the debaters.

In where I live, Christians are the minority, and Buddhists and Taoists are majority. And not much atheists. I don't seems to find many debates around. I think it's a culture thing, and something in Monotheism just doesn't agree with atheism in nature.

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Just wondering any Buddhist here? Why every religion discussion has to be about Church and Christianity? 

I'd be a Buddhist, if I did not kill the Buddha.

Do you watch fringe? Peter is gone (never existed actually)