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[Blargityblarg]

Absolute belief in anything is ridiculous, yes.

Trying to shake an absolute belief is, sadly, just as ridiculous.

Fake edit: You can modify a previous post instead of double-posting, which is generally considered to be a bit selfish. Also, our last thread on religion- I think it was Atheism Redux or something- was administrated by Bauglir over there, with strict rules, a non-inflammatory opening post and was eventually locked because it consisted of the aforementioned rehashing of the same arguments ad infinitum.

More fake editing: Yeah, what these guys said.

[freeformschooler]

I did not say that there is definitely no god. What I meant by my earlier statement was that Absolute belief in a god is rediculous, sorry for the miscommunication.

Absolute belief of anything is generally a bad idea. What are we if we can't question something, even if it's widely accepted to be wrong or right? Or if we believe in it anyway? Better to check your facts than to come out both wrong and dumbfounded.

This is not limited to theism or atheism at all.

You can't have a calm rational discussion when you start it off with open hostility.  If you want decency, you can't act like a jackass.

Not to mention it's meaningless.  What's your metric for determining what's ridiculous and what isn't?  Why is the existence of a deity so ridiculous you can't believe in it, and how is absolutely asserting one exists any more ridiculous than absolutely asserting one doesn't exist?

Also everything this guy said.

[Duke 2.0]

Not to mention it's meaningless.  What's your metric for determining what's ridiculous and what isn't?  Why is the existence of a deity so ridiculous you can't believe in it, and how is absolutely asserting one exists any more ridiculous than absolutely asserting one doesn't exist?

To expand on this, why is it ridiculous to believe in something ridiculous? Is this an inherently bad thing to avoid? Is it unattractive to merely the sensibilities of others or does it signal a problem in the person themself? Could a situation exist where one believes in a ridiculous thing and not be ridiculous themself? What if you are wrong, what has changed in the world due to your actions and words? It doesn't matter if the opposition is right, but simply that your own opinions are wrong do you morally approve of what you do? Reverse every variable in the situation, does it resemble anything you know, like or hate?

 Fuck, morality is hard.

[freeformschooler]

To expand on this, why is it ridiculous to believe in something ridiculous? Is this an inherently bad thing to avoid? Is it unattractive to merely the sensibilities of others or does it signal a problem in the person themself? Could a situation exist where one believes in a ridiculous thing and not be ridiculous themself? What if you are wrong, what has changed in the world due to your actions and words? It doesn't matter if the opposition is right, but simply that your own opinions are wrong do you morally approve of what you do? Reverse every variable in the situation, does it resemble anything you know, like or hate?

I made a face sort of like one of those online meme angry faces trying my darndest to understand this post.

[Duke 2.0]

 An entire semester of philosophy went into that post.

 And needing sleep five hours ago but fuck that.

[TherosPherae]

Hmmm... Y'know what, I actually kind of feel like making multiple replies to a religion thread tonight. Something must be wrong with me, but I'm gonna do it anyways.

I did not say that there is definitely no god. What I meant by my earlier statement was that Absolute belief in a god is rediculous, sorry for the miscommunication.

First of all, there is no "e" in ridiculous. Secondly...

Ridiculous–adjective
causing or worthy of ridicule  or derision; absurd; preposterous; laughable: a ridiculous plan.

So ridiculous is relative. So to you, absolute devotion to a religion is laughable and ridiculous, while to others (who most likely aren't going to post here) it is not. Thus, this is your opinion, which, from my point of view, seems to have been stated as fact. This is bad policy in general. Please refrain from doing so in the future.

Oh, and that stuff about calm rational discussion that the ninjas said. And I have no clue what Duke McNinja is talking about.

[Spartan-67]

That makes perfect sense.
Ok, I admit that My original post was kinda inflammatory, It was in hope to illicit some responses.

You can't have a calm rational discussion when you start it off with open hostility.  If you want decency, you can't act like a jackass.

Not to mention it's meaningless.  What's your metric for determining what's ridiculous and what isn't?  Why is the existence of a deity so ridiculous you can't believe in it, and how is absolutely asserting one exists any more ridiculous than absolutely asserting one doesn't exist?

I already stated that I don't absolutely say that there is no god.

Absolute belief of anything is generally a bad idea. What are we if we can't question something, even if it's widely accepted to be wrong or right? Or if we believe in it anyway? Better to check your facts than to come out both wrong and dumbfounded.

Which is the discussion I am trying to have, Question, learn, expand you knowledge.

My OP will now be : I am an atheist and I have a serious question for Theists, How Have you come to believe in a all-powerful being?

[Spartan-67]

Hmmm... Y'know what, I actually kind of feel like making multiple replies to a religion thread tonight. Something must be wrong with me, but I'm gonna do it anyways.

I did not say that there is definitely no god. What I meant by my earlier statement was that Absolute belief in a god is rediculous, sorry for the miscommunication.

First of all, there is no "e" in ridiculous. Secondly...

I can point out a spelling error therefore my position is correct

[Knight of Fools]

How can you not believe in an all powerful being?

[Spartan-67]

There is a lack of any evidence to the contrary.

The burden of proof is on the theist, not the atheist.

[freeformschooler]

My OP will now be : I am an atheist and I have a serious question for Theists, How Have you come to believe in a all-powerful being?

I believe the default response for a good many western Christians (can't speak for other religion) will be similar to mine: "indoctrination". I was raised to believe from a young age. I never thought much about it...

...until one day I literally just closed my laptop and said "how are we supposed to know?" So now I'm a theistic agnostic who believes anything is possible, and perhaps depending on your view, equally probable.

I can point out a spelling error therefore my position is correct

what.

[Knight of Fools]

There is also lack of evidence that he doesn't exist.

[Spartan-67]

Burden of proof, you not me

[TherosPherae]

Hmmm... Y'know what, I actually kind of feel like making multiple replies to a religion thread tonight. Something must be wrong with me, but I'm gonna do it anyways.

I did not say that there is definitely no god. What I meant by my earlier statement was that Absolute belief in a god is rediculous, sorry for the miscommunication.

First of all, there is no "e" in ridiculous. Secondly...

I can point out a spelling error therefore my position is correct

No. People spelling it as "rediculous" as opposed to its proper spelling is just something of a pet peeve of mine, right up there with "your" and "you're" misuse.

Also, just because I pointed out a spelling error doesn't mean I'm automatically assuming the rest of what I'm saying is right. I am many things, but perfect isn't one of them. If anything, I would appreciate it if you would nitpick the hell out of the rest of my post to give me an alternate viewpoint on my thoughts. But you seem to have resorted to a one-liner, oh well.

Edit: How in the name of carp did that extra quote get in there?

[Knight of Fools]

I'm stating a fact.  Saying "prove it" isn't getting us anywhere.

If you want to debate philosophy, you have to debate philosophically.