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[Jake]

The hell...? Can you provide a screenshot and the error logs?

[Drug_unit]

There is no error log even i think its maybe me messing something up after i modified the raw's little i have to check.
Simply put i honestly know know whats wrong. Maybe i don't have a stockpile that stocks gunpowder,bullets yet.
EDIT: I have everything i need in stock its just when i go to the workbench the option to make large cartriges is red.
Final edit: It seems using the manager they are making cartriges but i ran out of gunpowder.
It seems the guy cant find gunpowder even though i should have loads in stock. Could the fact that i modified the reaction to make gunpowder affect it?

[Jake]

It shouldn't have, or at least not as long as the product of the reaction was still gunpowder.

I'm going to try and reproduce the bug myself as soon as I figure out why my gaming rig's screen is giving me such horrible eyestrain.

[Drug_unit]

Well removing the black powder itself from the reaction seemed to work. Still have not tested if the guns fire though.

[Agent_Irons]

NB: There's a typo in the armed_blag reaction. Item_weapon:shotgun and item_weapon:shotgun_sawn_off should be item_weapon_shotgun and item_weapon_shotgun_sawn_off

[LordBaal]

I demand an update, NOW!


Hehehehe

But seriously, you plan to have this updated to the new version?

[Jake]

I've not yet had a chance to delve into the raws of the new version, and in any case I'm somewhat crippled by not having proper PC to develop on at the moment, but yes.

[Teneb]

I've not yet had a chance to delve into the raws of the new version, and in any case I'm somewhat crippled by not having proper PC to develop on at the moment, but yes.

From looking at the raws, the changes should be minor. Probably just adding [ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:X:Y] to each weapon and projectile.

[Sergarr]

You can also now make balanced uber-attacks for various weapons. Just make them take much more time.

[Agent_Irons]

I've not yet had a chance to delve into the raws of the new version, and in any case I'm somewhat crippled by not having proper PC to develop on at the moment, but yes.

Wotcher: since .40.05 SHOOT_FORCE is worth ~5% of what it was before, and projectiles under one kilogram are no longer fired as though they had zero mass.

Side effect: black powder weapons are now much more useful, as an expensive-to-fire but reliably armor-penetrating weapon is now a thing that might be good to have. Spring guns can be given longer reload times without affecting anything else. In general actually shooting can be made quick but reload be made slow (attack_prepare_and_recover:1:20, for instance. Or the reverse to model loading then firing, also allowing firing then stabbing naturally. Depends whether you assume the weapon is always loaded or is kept unloaded).

[LordBaal]

In DF universe I would always have as many weapons loaded as I dwarfmanly can.

[Jake]

I'll have to give that some thought. Thanks for the input, and expect further developments once I have a DF-worthy PC again.

[Jake]

Well, I now have a DF-capable PC again. It doesn't have an Internet connection or a proper plaintext editor yet and it's running Windows Vista, but it'll do. Time to get back on track!

I think I'm going to have to drop backwards compatibility for 0.34 simply because the new ATTACK_PREP_AND_RECOVER mechanic is... Well, basically it's going to make reload times work properly, something I've been trying and failing to get to work since Day 1. Exact numbers are TBC but there's going to be a broad inverse ratio between stopping power and rate of fire.

[Agent_Irons]

Hooray!

[Jake]

Well, I did a quick-and-dirty conversion to .40.10 and ran some arena tests. Preliminary conclusions:

1. We're back to 40d rates of fire even with ATTACK_PREP_AND_RECOVER set to 20:2. Further !!SCIENCE!! is badly needed on exactly what that new stat actually does because there's nothing on the wiki.

2. SHOOT_FORCE is going to need a huge boost, because lead bullets are basically paintballs; a dwarf got hit in the face with a rifle shot and suffered a bruised eyelid.