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[Dunamisdeos]

If you want to make it so that you arent using a whole boulder per flint, just make a workshop reaction that takes a boulder and makes a few flint chips.

[Jake]

That'd work. Not quite sure what skill I'd use for it though; stone crafter, probably. Hmmm... I have some ideas for this, but I'm not sure whether they're possible in-engine. Does [PRODUCT_DIMENSION:n] apply to boulders? The wiki's entry on quantities is rather vague.

[Tierre]

Just make 50 flints form a boulder:) Best is the enemy of good - that is a good russian proverb. You will use a lot of time and in the end will make boulder do a lot of flints but with 50 reactions instead of 1:)

[Jake]

Just make 50 flints form a boulder:) Best is the enemy of good - that is a good russian proverb. You will use a lot of time and in the end will make boulder do a lot of flints but with 50 reactions instead of 1

Yes, it is a good proverb, but I wasn't planning to make just one flint chip per reaction. I'm thinking batches of up to ten per 150th of a boulder, each with its own individual drop probability so you have to factor in a smallish safety margin when importing flint.

[Dunamisdeos]

I'm not an expert on reactions. But it does seem the best way to gof or something like that.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

Well boulders are heavy as sin, so ordering flint you might get 5 boulders at max. Maybe a new tool could be made called "Box of Flints" can be made out of anything, since it is a box. of course a stone box is weird. And if enabled for your civ (TOOL) then you can make these boxes at a craftshop, so maybe other civs use it?

Anyways you trade for these lighter but more expensive boxes of flint, have a reaction the takes a box and make 3-7 flints.

Donno just a suggestion.

[Jake]

Well boulders are heavy as sin, so ordering flint you might get 5 boulders at max. Maybe a new tool could be made called "Box of Flints" can be made out of anything, since it is a box. of course a stone box is weird. And if enabled for your civ (TOOL) then you can make these boxes at a craftshop, so maybe other civs use it?

Anyways you trade for these lighter but more expensive boxes of flint, have a reaction the takes a box and make 3-7 flints.

Donno just a suggestion.

Innovative, but it feels a bit too contrived to me, especially since a single boulder of flint taken on embark would be enough to make a lot of guns; I haven't decided exactly how many flints you'll get per boulder, but it's going to be a three-figure sum.

How about this: The individual flint strikers are used as part of a reaction to make a firelock, which is used in the gun reactions in place of a metal mechanism and takes... Hmmm. Between a quarter and a third of a metal bar each, depending on the size of the weapon? Firelocks can be bought from caravans if there's no flint on the map, as well as complete weapons.

[Skald]

I love the mod, but I'm still having problems getting it to fully function properly.

The biggest problem I'm having is ammo, specifically cartridges. They show up as "Rock" projectiles, regardless of the stones made.

Any thoughts for how I can fix that?

[Jake]

I love the mod, but I'm still having problems getting it to fully function properly.

The biggest problem I'm having is ammo, specifically cartridges. They show up as "Rock" projectiles, regardless of the stones made.

Any thoughts for how I can fix that?

Oh, sod a dog, this bug again? I thought I fixed that one about half a dozen versions ago. I'll look into it, just let me finish banging my head against the nearest handy wall.

[Tierre]

Protect your head Jake:) About crates-  you can do it MasterWork Mod way:) Meph uses sopa bars called crates (for the purpose of easy finding and not using it in any reactions) with AUTOMATIC reactions to unload them. You will need to make a new material template and a creature for this (arena_restricted) and it will let you use it and assign any value to crate you want:)

[Jake]

Protect your head Jake About crates-  you can do it MasterWork Mod way Meph uses sopa bars called crates (for the purpose of easy finding and not using it in any reactions) with AUTOMATIC reactions to unload them. You will need to make a new material template and a creature for this (arena_restricted) and it will let you use it and assign any value to crate you want:)

I dunno, it just feels too much like a hack to me, not to mention all the potential bugs and general weirdness it would create.

I tell you what, though. If you or anyone else fancies putting a "box up flints"/"unbox flints" reaction together once I get the next version out, I'll include it in the .zip file as a sort of optional extra.

[Tierre]

[REACTION:CRATE_FLINT]
   [NAME:Open crate of flints]
   [BUILDING:!somebuilding!:!some custom key!]
   [REAGENT:A:1:BAR:NONE:CREATURE_MAT:FLINT_CRATE:SOAP][DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
        [PRODUCT:100:10:!!your flints in right material tokens!!][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:!right product dimension!]
   [AUTOMATIC]

For crate you would need a creature:
[CREATURE:FLINT_CRATE]
   [NAME:::]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SOAP:FLINT_CRATE_TEMPLATE]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:crate of flints]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:crate of melted flints]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:crate of boiling flints]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:!200!]determine crate value for trade
   [ARENA_RESTRICTED]
   [DOES_NOT_EXIST]

Now add this material template:

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[MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:FLINT_CRATE_TEMPLATE]
   [STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:CREAM]
   [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:crate]
   [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:crate]
   [STATE_COLOR:LIQUID:CREAM]
   [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:melted crate]
   [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:melted crate]
   [STATE_COLOR:GAS:CREAM]
   [STATE_NAME:GAS:crate]
   [STATE_ADJ:GAS:crate]
   [DISPLAY_COLOR:7:0:1]
   [MATERIAL_VALUE:20]
   [SPEC_HEAT:800]
   [IGNITE_POINT:11508]
   [MELTING_POINT:11078]
   [BOILING_POINT:NONE]
   [HEATDAM_POINT:10250]
   [COLDDAM_POINT:9900]
   [MAT_FIXED_TEMP:10050]
   [SOLID_DENSITY:500]
   [LIQUID_DENSITY:NONE]
   [MOLAR_MASS:NONE]
   [IMPACT_YIELD:10000]
   [IMPACT_FRACTURE:10000]
   [IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
   [COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:10000]
   [COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:10000]
   [COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
   [TENSILE_YIELD:10000]
   [TENSILE_FRACTURE:10000]
   [TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
   [TORSION_YIELD:10000]
   [TORSION_FRACTURE:10000]
   [TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
   [SHEAR_YIELD:10000] no data
   [SHEAR_FRACTURE:10000]
   [SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
   [BENDING_YIELD:10000]
   [BENDING_FRACTURE:10000]
   [BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
   [MAX_EDGE:0]
   [ABSORPTION:100]
   -REACTION_CLASS:SOAP- -  this and last line determine that this is soap  - so it won't be used in hospital.
   [IMPLIES_ANIMAL_KILL]   - you can delete this... but it won't change anything anyway.
   -SOAP--SOAP_LEVEL:2-

Now add reaction for entity crate production to dwarves or humans - your choice:

[REACTION:CREATE_FLINT_CRATE]
   [NAME:creating flint crates]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NONE:CREATURE_MAT:FLINT_CRATE:SOAP][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]

It should work without building - this is the mechanic of the game. That is if you add it to dwarves. If you add it to other civs feel free to add a building it is used in - but if oyu do it for dwarf entity - then your fortress will be able to spawn crates. But building is not required.

Don't forget to add entity eraction permissions.

Well that's it.

[Teh Barple]

Hey, loving this mod so far but I can't seem to get it to work in Adventure mode. I put in the raws into the entity_default and tabbed all of them in properly but the guns aren't appearing properly, and whenever I spawn with high crossbow skill I start with a crossbow instead of a rifle/musket/whatever. Hopefully this isn't a dumb question to you or isn't overly obvious.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

@Tierre
these creature lines

   [ARENA_RESTRICTED]
   [DOES_NOT_EXIST]
does not exist will remove them from the arena aswell. So ARENA_RESTRICTED is redundant. Just sayin

Hrm.. if the creature's SOAP material why is it using a custom template? would it not have a soap_template?

@Teh Barple
In adv. mode? Yea it's funny like that, it randomly picks a weapon of that given skill. High sword skills might give you a short sword, long sword, or a 2-hander. As an example. Nothing to do with the Mod

[Tierre]

Hugo - that's from Meph's RAWS:) And for that matter this template has no SOAP_LEVEL 2 and [SOAP] which should protect it from being used in hospital. Good to know about arena_restricted.