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[DeKaFu]

The Deep Tin Embrace of Kindness?
That's very... uh...
...intimidating...

A military tactician I am not, but is there perhaps some way we could make them waste their bolts? We don't have a horde of highly expendable animals lying around, do we?

[jogorhan]

what does our stock of metal look like? we could pepper the road with weapon traps, or possibly cage traps. I say trap 'em, strip 'em, and use 'em for target practice! there are a LOT of crossbows and bolts out there... might not be a bad idea to train up a sizable militia of us commondorfs to use something, for when the unthinkable happens and they break through.


((also, could i get a look at my stats?))

[bitterhorn]

I love love love the idea of the goblins having to enter by wading through a tangle of the TRAPPED remains of former acquaintances.  Make it so.

A drowning trap made of soap would be especially, deliciously cruel, but Geb's right, we don't have time to do this right at the moment.  We definitely need to thin their ranks, so ballista + snipers it is (though I doubt we're coming out of this without losing a few, even with the distraction of traps).

If Vudnis hasn't forgotten her weaponsmithing skill entirely, I'm sure she'd volunteer to help replenish our stock of metal bolts if necessary.  Assuming we have enough metal to hack that + weapon traps...

[Hitty40]

You should send G out there and see how many goblins he hacks the hell out of.

Also, what is his marks/axe skill?

Aye, let me at 'em! RaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!

[rridgway]

This is when I wish we could set up Atu as a petard. That wold be awesome. This type of siege is simultaeneously making me glad and regret that I took a "safe" surgeon. My dwarves self getting their eyes torn out, awesome!

[jaxy15]

You should send G out there and see how many goblins he hacks the hell out of.

Also, what is his marks/axe skill?

Aye, let me at 'em! RaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!

You serious? That's suicide! There's only a 0.01 chance he will succeed.

[Hitty40]

You should send G out there and see how many goblins he hacks the hell out of.

Also, what is his marks/axe skill?

Aye, let me at 'em! RaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!

You serious? That's suicide! There's only a 0.01 chance he will succeed.

Buddy, don't get him angry and hack your face by saying that. Or put a bolt through your brain.

[Lafiel]

I'd say let them in in as smaller groups as we can manage, and deal with them separatedly, either with Bessie or through conventional matters.

For a bit ahead, there's a couple trapped tower bridge designs we can use. But we'll need time to build that, and the goblins don't seem keen on letting us have even a few months without ambushes or sieges.

[jaxy15]

You should send G out there and see how many goblins he hacks the hell out of.

Also, what is his marks/axe skill?

Aye, let me at 'em! RaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!

You serious? That's suicide! There's only a 0.01 chance he will succeed.

Buddy, don't get him angry and hack your face by saying that. Or put a bolt through your brain.

He may be a berserker, but no one can survive several thousand bolts in their body.

[Hitty40]

You should send G out there and see how many goblins he hacks the hell out of.

Also, what is his marks/axe skill?

RaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!

You serious? That's suicide! There's only a 0.01 chance he will succeed.

Buddy, don't get him angry and hack your face by saying that. Or put a bolt through your brain.

He may be a berserker, but no one can survive several thousand bolts in their body.

You just pissed him off.

RaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!*Picks up an axe and charges at Jaxy*

[jaxy15]

You should send G out there and see how many goblins he hacks the hell out of.

Also, what is his marks/axe skill?

RaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!

You serious? That's suicide! There's only a 0.01 chance he will succeed.

Buddy, don't get him angry and hack your face by saying that. Or put a bolt through your brain.

He may be a berserker, but no one can survive several thousand bolts in their body.

You just pissed him off.

RaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!*Picks up an axe and charges at Jaxy*

Why is it so cold around my neck area? ..Is that blood?

[magmaholic]

i am so sad.
goblins,goblins scream at gates.
must fulfill my purpose.

for the world around
has no meaning at all
certain death shall happen

the eternal sleep before
and hero one born now
at the coming dawn.
__________________________________
now now,i should run and have a suicide attack,for he is dead either way.
(will go berserk or melanholy)
and yay,haiku : D
EDIT:oops,its four-five-four instead of five seven five <^<

[peregarrett]

We can drop them into aquifer for now and when they "calm down" - then setup the pumps to retrieve iron. We have a river there, right? Waterwheels are better than windmills.

[khearn]

If you'd gotten down to magma, you could use the boatmurdered solution and flood them with it.

I think letting them in in small groups and letting Bessie chew on each group may be the best solution (other than just waiting for them to leave). Hopefully she'd tenderize the elites before they have a chance to do anyrhing. Then have your melee dwarves waiting around the corner at the end of the Bone Road so they can engage at close range, neutralizing the advantage of the crossbows. The hardest part is keeping the melee types from charging too early. Maybe build a quick bridge to hold them back and drop it as the goblins reach the end of the Bone Road.

You also want to be very careful that none of the melee types runs in front of Bessie while she's still in action. Friendly fire isn't.

[zephyr_hound]

letting the goblins in in small groups and having Bessie tenderize them

appears to be the general consensus, and is what I was probably going to do anyway. Although we will have to watch out that our siege operators don't catch a bolt while firing the ballista. If we can just isolate the elite bowmen this siege is really not a problem, the issue with them is that they hide behind their meatshields.

Would also like to know how many would in future support the idea of a drowning trap - would that make sieges too cheesy/boring?