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[jogorhan]

I don't know my dorf stats yet, but jogorhan would be willing to lead a squad of speardorfs as a last line of defense.

[Yoink]

Who needs stats?

"Got arms?"
"Yep."
"Got beard?"
"Yep."
"Socks?"
"Yep."
"Draft 'im."

[TapeNoot]

Well, considering that bolt attacks are the problem, and given the lack of time...

Could always set up a battery of catapults. Might not be as effective as ballistae, but given we're already through the aquifer, ammunition is essentially infinite.

Plus, given the extra range a catapult has compared to a crossbow, it might be a bit safer than sniping from the walls. Yes, accuracy will be terrible, but a few thousand tones of stone moving downrange is bound to hit -something-

Who knows, might cause enough kills to cause the others to break off, and give precious time to set up something especially sadistic dwarfy for next time.


Great fountain by the way

[Mayerm]

Who needs stats?

"Got arms?"
"Yep."
"Got beard?"
"Yep."
"Socks?"
"Yep."
"Draft 'im."

Don't forget: "Love booze?"
and this fort:
"Grab a bar of soap and follow ME!"

and you really should have the second level of the walls as fortification so you can shoot from safety...

[TapeNoot]

Also, shame there isn't a way to carve stones into giant, spiked shapes before launching in a catapult, that way they'd get through armour easier.

Come to think of it... Using a catapult to disperse poisoned caltrops would be highly effective in some cases. Shame it's not coded or anything.

But yeah. Catapults. Only really going to be of use if it's RAINING boulders, given the weak damage and all. That said, the extra range (compared to crossbows) is nice.

[khearn]

Would also like to know how many would in future support the idea of a drowning trap - would that make sieges too cheesy/boring?

You've already about reached the point where sieges without elite archers are pretty much boring.

Sieges are already too cheesy in DF, as long as one can simply raise a drawbridge and be perfectly safe from anything the besiegers can do. Until Toady implements attacks that can beak through defenses, it's only a question of how urgent it is to break the siege, and how much risk one is willing to take to do so. A well designed drowning trap is really no different than putting cage traps for the entire length of the bone road, and then pitting the goblins from cages into the river. By "well designed" I mean one that the goblins have no chance of getting past. A more "sporting" design would at least give some of them a chance of getting past it, and thus be higher risk and more fun.

If you're going to implement a trap, make it excessively complex with lots of moving parts so things could go wrong and cause fun.

Yeah, I know, that's nopt going to happen for this siege.

[GreatWyrmGold]

[Check the third post in the thread for current dwarf list. I'll update the image rather than keep making new posts which get buried all the time.

Hey, that's a good idea. Don't forget skills! I'd like to know how Ubendastot is going with his marksdwarf training.

Hm...Does he have a kill yet? If not, he'll likely ask to either practice on some wildlife or practice "Bessie Jr."
He might also suggest reinforcing Bessie's fortifications--bowmen can't fire through thick fortifications because the second one is two tiles aw...wait. Ah, nevermind. Maybe a catapult tower? Stone stockpile, some catapults firing over the walls with their own fortifications to protect them? Thought...

[nogoodnames]

I love this story so far, It's definitely one of my favourites.

Anyway, can I be dorfed? I don't really have any preferences, anyone who's available is fine. And since nogoodnames is a terrible name for a dwarf you can name him Brimsley.

[Hitty40]

Zeph, do you mind uploading your map DFFD so I can see how the fortress is laid out, please?

[darkflagrance]

In the process of reading this thread backwards!

I'd like to offer a minor, possibly useless suggestion depending on how far you've already played the fort. You can buy cloth or leather en-masse, and then sew images on goblin loot to make it count as your own...if that matters to you in any way, while at the same time training up clothiers.

[zephyr_hound]

argh, lots of stuff to respond to

sewing images on goblin loot

I've done that in another fort, and the amount of wealth gets RIDICULOUS pretty fast, agreed - however this being Soaplanterns the eventual plan is to support ourselves via soap. That's if Mr Madushkubuk can be persuaded to part with any of it of course.

do you mind uploading your map DFFD

I have no idea how to do that.

name [a dwarf] Brimsley.

Will do

already about reached the point where sieges without elite archers are pretty much boring

Agreed. What I want to decide is, shall we accept that the goblins are now boring and dig down, or shall we try and keep them interesting for a bit longer? I'm inclined not to build complicated drowning traps for now and use the sieges as training for the army. Hitting the caverns will probably be the final few chapters for Soaplanterns one way or another, we all know what's down there by now (if people have been reading spoilers) and YES we are eventually going to go for it.

drafting the fortress populace

was already my plan, and a very good one for another reason as dwarves are now turning up naked and it would be nice to get them to put something on.


Okay ladies and gentledwarves, we doin this. Thank you all for your input.

[Neyvn]

If I may... Defense Expert cutting in here...

Inside the walls build a quick 'Maze' of walls, inside this maze set up some Doors attached to Levers. Have this lead directly to the Main Entrance. Open the gates with no one in it. Use the Levers to SORT the Goblins as they come in, Open and close Floodgates to give them different routes into the Fort (Obviously you need to have a direct route open, but requiring alot of different ways so they can't just waltz in. At the End when one or two get through the maze in small ammounts, have them meet the Melee Dwarves...

[Yoink]

"Grab a bar of soap and follow ME!"

"Welcome to Ubenudil- Don't drop the soap."
xD


"..."
"I mean it's, uh, Mr Madushkubuk's soap. So be careful with it."

[zephyr_hound]

"Welcome to Ubenudil- Don't drop the soap."

thanks, now there's pepsi on my laptop screen

[Hitty40]

Although ive never done, I think you just make an account and press the upload button, browse for the region folder and hit upload.