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[DJ]

Also, cut all public education. Did you know that there isn't a single public elementary school in USA that generates profit?

And businesses certainly don't benefit from a guaranteed  supply of educated workers do they? Business get no benefit from their workers being able to get public transport to work either, or hospital care.

The forum really needs sarcasm tags. I was just spoofing the people who were saying how NASA is a giant waste of money. The point is that knowledge is wealth, even if it's not easily quantified.

[x2yzh9]

I love socialism.

[Reelyanoob]

Also, cut all public education. Did you know that there isn't a single public elementary school in USA that generates profit?

And businesses certainly don't benefit from a guaranteed  supply of educated workers do they? Business get no benefit from their workers being able to get public transport to work either, or hospital care.

The forum really needs sarcasm tags. I was just spoofing the people who were saying how NASA is a giant waste of money. The point is that knowledge is wealth, even if it's not easily quantified.

Ok, seriously sorry LOL, i've argued with a lot of guys on Yahoo Answers Poltics so it's seriously hard to tell whether you really thought that. I should have worked it out because you said elementary school. Which would be nuttier than average even for a Glenn Beck fan. Did you know George Soros rules the world in an evil pact with Google? (the communist-nazi-muslim new world order with stars of david behind Soros' head) Beck will tell you.

[_DivideByZero_]

Why is it valuable though? Do tell.

Preventing meteorite based extinctions is pretty valuable. Burying your head in the sand is not going to stop these kinds of impacts. They happen all the time, just take a look a look at the moon or mars for direct proof. Your dreaming if you think we can deal with an impending impact of this kind without further funding and research.

Then, theres existing stuff like GPS and weather monitoring satellites that make life easier and more predictable for us.

We are a long way off from stopping a meteor. Blowing it up with a missile would send hundreds of fragments flying at you instead of one big mass. Also, satellites cost nowhere near as much money as stopping an extremely determined rock from hitting us.

Yes, in the future space technology may prove helpful. However, childish dreams of setting up colonies or pressing a button to stop a deadly meteor take time and money. We are nowhere near the level of technology required for these kinds of operations, and fallaciously insisting that the meager amount of money we put into it now is going to save the human race has no grounds in reality. NASA won't spend it on a planetary defense system... they're worrying about mars so they can support their useless guess that mars supported life before. So what? What about paleontology, how does that help us? It doesn't, it just makes scientists look smart so they can stick it in our faces whenever we question them.

[Phmcw]

Why is it valuable though? Do tell.

Preventing meteorite based extinctions is pretty valuable. Burying your head in the sand is not going to stop these kinds of impacts. They happen all the time, just take a look a look at the moon or mars for direct proof. Your dreaming if you think we can deal with an impending impact of this kind without further funding and research.

Then, theres existing stuff like GPS and weather monitoring satellites that make life easier and more predictable for us.

We are a long way off from stopping a meteor. Blowing it up with a missile would send hundreds of fragments flying at you instead of one big mass. Also, satellites cost nowhere near as much money as stopping an extremely determined rock from hitting us.

Yes, in the future space technology may prove helpful. However, childish dreams of setting up colonies or pressing a button to stop a deadly meteor take time and money. We are nowhere near the level of technology required for these kinds of operations, and fallaciously insisting that the meager amount of money we put into it now is going to save the human race has no grounds in reality. NASA won't spend it on a planetary defense system... they're worrying about mars so they can support their useless guess that mars supported life before. So what? What about paleontology, how does that help us? It doesn't, it just makes scientists look smart so they can stick it in our faces whenever we question them.

Please, please tell me you're ironic.

[_DivideByZero_]

What's that supposed to mean?

[Phmcw]

What's that supposed to mean?

You're serious? There goes my hopes in humanity...

Well a few response to your statements, because I feel obliged to.

First it have nothing to do with socialism.

Second... how the hell would you want us to reach that level of technology if you don't fund the research.

Third knowledge is an objective worth pursuing in itself.

Fourth paleontology have THOUSANDS of practical application, just like any field of science.

Five "it just makes scientists look smart so they can stick it in our faces whenever we question them" seriously? This is what you think?

And last all this was obvious.

[Realmfighter]

So what? What about paleontology, how does that help us? It doesn't, it just makes scientists look smart so they can stick it in our faces whenever we question them.

Fucking magnets, how do they work?
And I don't wanna talk to a scientist
Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed

I'm so sorry

[_DivideByZero_]

You're serious? There go my hopes in humanity...

I've never had any in the first place.

First it have nothing to do with socialism.

Kind of does, but this was more of a quick question that erupted into a full on derail.

Second... how the hell would you want us to reach that level of technology if you don't fund the research.

We should fund it... but not now. We can't bring multiple tons of mining equipment to the moon, for example, because we don't have the necessary power supplies to bring tha much equipment to the moon for less than billions and billions of dollars.

There are also regulations. If a missile could blow a meteor up, we still aren't allowed to test  it anywhere but underground, which is nothing like space.

Third knowledge is an objective worth pursuing in itself.

That's baloney. If there's no practical purpose, there's no reason to pursue it. It's because of humanity's basic desire to make their speculation come true.

Fourth paleontology have THOUSANDS of practical application, just like any field of science.

Such as...? Give me a real answer, please.

[Realmfighter]

Have some Google

[Phmcw]

We should fund it... but not now. We can't bring multiple tons of mining equipment to the moon, for example, because we don't have the necessary power supplies to bring that much equipment to the moon for less than billions and billions of dollars.

There are also regulations. If a missile could blow a meteor up, we still aren't allowed to test  it anywhere but underground, which is nothing like space.

The race to the space cost billions of dollars. Yet every one of them has been worth it, both in the scientific and economic field.
And the NASA won't launch unreasonable project.

Such as...? Give me a real answer, please.

A simple, direct one? Finding oil. We wouldn't know where is is if we didn't know where it came from.
A lots of indirect ones : Developing medicines, by helping us understand biology. Thousands of interactions with other fields of science such a geology, mineralogy... they allow us to confirm genetic theories,... every domain of science overlaps.

That's baloney. If there's no practical purpose, there's no reason to pursue it. It's because of humanity's basic desire to make their speculation come true.

Explain me the purpose of pursuing a practical purpose, then.

[_DivideByZero_]

The race to the space cost billions of dollars. Yet every one of them has been worth it, both in the scientific and economic field.
And the NASA won't launch unreasonable project.

Worth what? Billions of our dollars to take pictures? While I certainly appreciate the scenery it hasn't quite benefited us down here on Earth.

A simple, direct one? Finding oil. We wouldn't know where is is if we didn't know where it came from.

That is incorrect.
Oil is not found based on fossils, it is found using seismic calculations because waves travel differently through liquid than through rock.

A lots of indirect ones : Developing medicines, by helping us understand biology

Unsupported.

Thousands of interactions with other fields of science such a geology, mineralogy...

What interactions?

they allow us to confirm genetic theories,

Genetic theories? Like evolution? I don't see how society's benefited from that, but we did have a few mass murders justified by it.

Explain me the purpose of pursuing a practical purpose, then.

You know what? I'm not going to bother with you anymore.

[ChairmanPoo]

Genetic theories? Like evolution? I don't see how society's benefited from that, but we did have a few mass murders justified by it.

Troll detected

[Realmfighter]

So, if I'm getting you right, all scientific fields Except Engineering should no longer exist, and Engineering only if there is a provable monetary gain?

[Phmcw]

Listen, I know you're in high school, I know that it's lousy, but that's no reason to say such bold and erroneous statements

Worth what? Billions of our dollars to take pictures? While I certainly appreciate the scenery it hasn't quite benefited us down here on Earth.

Do you live in a cave? No gps, no internet, no Gsm, no satellite tv?

That is incorrect.
Oil is not found based on fossils, it is found using seismic calculations because waves travel differently through liquid than through rock.

Yeah, and they test everywhere at random. Hey who care if there is a suitable geological formation that happen to have had the suitable climate for creation of oil?

Unsupported.

Silly me, I'd swore there was a link between biology and medicine. Oh well...

Thousands of interactions with other fields of science such a geology, mineralogy...

What interactions?

Something not important, such as dating, understanding what rock come from where, what to expect... not important.

Genetic theories? Like evolution? I don't see how society's benefited from that, but we did have a few mass murders justified by it.

Ha yeah, races are so supported by evolution they are canon right now. And of course evolution is a genetic theory. Didn't you know Darwin discovered genetics? And of course, who care about genetic theory, that stuff is useless.

You know what? I'm not going to bother with you anymore.

You should. You may learn things.