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Author Topic: The PROTECT IP act. (USA)  (Read 12471 times)

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Re: The PROTECT IP act. (USA)
« Reply #210 on: May 27, 2011, 02:24:38 pm »

UPDATE.

Oregon, you have an awesome Senator in Ron Wyden.
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“In December of last year I placed a hold on similar legislation, commonly called COICA, because I felt the costs of the legislation far outweighed the benefits. After careful analysis of the Protect IP Act, or PIPA, I am compelled to draw the same conclusion. I understand and agree with the goal of the legislation, to protect intellectual property and combat commerce in counterfeit goods, but I am not willing to muzzle speech and stifle innovation and economic growth to achieve this objective. At the expense of legitimate commerce, PIPA’s prescription takes an overreaching approach to policing the Internet when a more balanced and targeted approach would be more effective. The collateral damage of this approach is speech, innovation and the very integrity of the Internet.

"The Internet represents the shipping lane of the 21st century. It is increasingly in America’s economic interest to ensure that the Internet is a viable means for American innovation, commerce, and the advancement of our ideals that empower people all around the world. By ceding control of the Internet to corporations through a private right of action, and to government agencies that do not sufficiently understand and value the Internet, PIPA represents a threat to our economic future and to our international objectives. Until the many issues that I and others have raised with this legislation are addressed, I will object to a unanimous consent request to proceed to the legislation."

Everyone else sucks for letting this pass the Senate Committee. call them or e-mail them or something!

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« Reply #211 on: May 27, 2011, 03:11:57 pm »

Reading that quote, that guy is awesome.
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Re: The PROTECT IP act. (USA)
« Reply #212 on: May 27, 2011, 03:24:48 pm »

I know its sort of died down, but I'd just like to say, Criptfiends arguments in this thread have convinced me, and I want to make a confession.

I am a dirty rotten thief. I steal yogurt. And the worse part is, I don't even know who I'm stealing from because I forgot where I got the original culture, and now every single day I am stealing from that unknown company. I want to stop, I really do, but I think I'm just too selfish a person - I cannot bring myself to stop stealing the yogurt. And I don't even have any intention of actually buying the yogurt now that I've tasted it - even though I like it!

I'm a terrible person.
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Re: The PROTECT IP act. (USA)
« Reply #213 on: May 27, 2011, 03:29:06 pm »

It's like he almost feels an obligation to protect everyone's interests, not just the ones that are lobbying the shit out of Congress to pass this.
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Re: The PROTECT IP act. (USA)
« Reply #214 on: May 27, 2011, 04:01:40 pm »

Just thinking of the loss of record-company and movie-studio profits due to web piracy fills me with a combination of acedia and schadenfreude
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Re: The PROTECT IP act. (USA)
« Reply #215 on: May 28, 2011, 03:14:10 pm »

Really the piracy stuff is secondary to the objection to this law.

This law not only has the US promoting themselves to global police and censors of the internet, but completely does away with due process to boot - a private suit can remove your business from existence /without legal warning of any kind and without trial/. This is the true face of corporate-sponsored Fascism in America.
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« Reply #216 on: May 28, 2011, 05:45:04 pm »

i would just like to say how much i'm thankful for ron wyden right now
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« Reply #217 on: May 28, 2011, 05:51:03 pm »

This law not only has the US promoting themselves to global police and censors of the internet, [...]

Obviously impossible and ultimately laughable.  Everyone knows that British superinjunction-ruling Judges are the ones to censor the internet. :)
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« Reply #218 on: May 28, 2011, 06:32:29 pm »

Is this the act that led to the creation of a Firefox Plugin that will redirect you to the websites IP address automatically if the DNS is ever messed with by the government?

And then they told Firefox to remove said app, but Firefox asked them if they were legally required to, at which they backed off.

I forgot the name of the plugin though, but it's an awesome idea. Anything that ruins the governments idiotic attempts at censorship and control is good with me. And said plugin makes them messing up the DNS completely pointless :) Even if they DO remove sites from DNS listings, all someone would have to do is get the IP address from one of the internet news sites that's bound to post it, and bookmark it. But I like it being automatic much better.
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Re: The PROTECT IP act. (USA)
« Reply #219 on: May 28, 2011, 06:45:32 pm »

That plugin was made in responce to the ICE/"Homeland Security" Domain Seizures ridiculosity. Its is now a Chrome plugin as well,so all the better for spreading it I suppose.

This is just Idiots being idiots, but with the addition of massive piles of lobbyist contributions reviving, changing for the worse, and pushing for a specific bill and one non-idiot doing the right thing and blocking it again.
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« Reply #220 on: May 28, 2011, 07:19:07 pm »

I've already written letters to both my senators. Fellow B12'ers, write in if you want to see change. The aldermen of my area are all family friends, and I may have a chance to talk with Senator Durbin soon. All of our raeg-speech counts for naught if it is said to the walls.
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Re: The PROTECT IP act. (USA)
« Reply #221 on: May 28, 2011, 08:27:51 pm »

I've already written letters to both my senators. Fellow B12'ers, write in if you want to see change. The aldermen of my area are all family friends, and I may have a chance to talk with Senator Durbin soon. All of our raeg-speech counts for naught if it is said to the walls.

Done. Well, half. I'll need to construct a letter with entirely different rhetoric for the Democratic one. Possibly tomorrow, I'll do that.
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Re: The PROTECT IP act. (USA)
« Reply #222 on: May 28, 2011, 08:29:38 pm »

So..... since I can't read nor understand legal-speak, is there a neutral summary of this bill somewhere? What exactly is it supposed to do that's so repulsive?
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Re: The PROTECT IP act. (USA)
« Reply #223 on: May 28, 2011, 08:31:00 pm »

Instead of, or better yet in addition to, lobbying congress we should try and find out what corporations have lobbied for this law and boycott them.
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Re: The PROTECT IP act. (USA)
« Reply #224 on: May 28, 2011, 08:33:18 pm »

So..... since I can't read nor understand legal-speak, is there a neutral summary of this bill somewhere? What exactly is it supposed to do that's so repulsive?
Its allowing corporations to use a federal law and "private right of action" to wield Copyright infringement like a massive banhammer of doomy blacklisting +1, sans due process.
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