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[GotIt_00]

Not sure if this has went around the forums yet; I ran a quick search and didn't see it.

The National Endowment for the Arts is now considering video games for funding. They must be free (check) and demonstrate a public good (check, as this simulation inspires critical thinking, imaginative narrative, an on an on).

Toady needs to go for this kind of funding. It seems perfect for Indy Games, and I can't think of many that would fit the requirements as perfectly as DF does.

This kind of recognition would be perfect for all of T's hard work, and it would open the game up to 1,000's of curious people.

[Number4]

Add brilliant geology.

[vikingefar]

toady should definately look into this!

[nil]

Unfortunately it looks like it would take some prepatory organizational legwork, at the very least:

Can I apply for a grant as an individual?
No. We only offer grants to nonprofit, tax-exempt 501c3, U.S. organizations; units of state or local government; or federally recognized tribal communities or tribes.

A 501c3 in turn must be operated exclusively for the purpose of "charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals.  The term charitable is used in its generally accepted legal sense and includes relief of the poor, the distressed, or the underprivileged; advancement of religion; advancement of education or science; erecting or maintaining public buildings, monuments, or works; lessening the burdens of government; lessening neighborhood tensions; eliminating prejudice and discrimination; defending human and civil rights secured by law; and combating community deterioration and juvenile delinquency."  You could try to build a case on DF being educational, but between Bay12's other games and more importantly the fact that Toady has said in any number of venues that he does this for fun and personal satisfaction it probably wouldn't withstand scrutiny... and the IRS is nothing if not scrutinous.

[YetAnotherStupidDorf]

Unfortunately, I do not think game where you can genocide kittens can get ever this grant.

[sweitx]

Unfortunately, I do not think game where you can genocide kittens can get ever this grant.

Dwarf Fortress: Genocide, it's a way of life.
Dwarf Fortress: Returning the world to its natural state.  As a sea of magma.

Nope, I don't think Dwarf Fortress can possibly get that grant.
"So... your game is about a bunch of dwarfs?"
"Yes sir."
"Building a fortress."
"Yes sir."
"Okay, I can see dining room, living room... and a hallway filled with body parts."
"Those are invaders, they're evil."
"And what's this flooded room for?"
"Breeding mermaids, sir."
"Mermaids?"
"Yes sir.  It let them have mermaid babies, we flush them down to the lower level, where they either fall to their death or drown out of water."
"... why?"
"Their bones are valuable."
"..."

[Cruxador]

Kitten genocide and mermaid breeding are emergent gameplay, not the game working as intended. If Toady were to pitch it he would likely not even mention those things.

[Dae]

Actually, wasn't merfolk bones cost tuned down by Toady himself after this whole economy was first set up ?

[CerealGuns]

Unfortunately, I do not think game where you can genocide kittens can get ever this grant.

When the kitten uprising comes they'll wish they gave some funding to DF.

[PTTG??]

Maybe we can get Toady One listed as a tribe.

[metime00]

Do you think bay12games counts as a non-profit organization? We should make it into one. It's already non-profit!

[G-Flex]

Do you think bay12games counts as a non-profit organization? We should make it into one. It's already non-profit!

No, it's not, and read nil's post again.

[moki]

Well, it does prevent violence... just imagine all the psychopaths and virtual kitten-killers leaving their computers and being let loose on the rest of humankind

(nope, I don't really think, DF-players are inherently more violent, just becasue most of them do atrocities to little ASCII-letters... I feel that this clarification is necessary for people without any knowledge of sarcasm)

[darkflagrance]

Apparently "Advancement of religion" counts as charitable...take that as you will...

[Lord Braindead]

Which means that Toady can get the grant if he can prove that it is advocating the religion of Armok.
Of course, we would need to get the Church of the Bloodgod recognized as a religion first...