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[Neonivek]

but now i wonder

when is the prequel about The Boss coming???

Honestly given what I know about her life before the events of MGS3... It is rather unpleasant and flat out depressing.

I mean I guess if you wanted to play as a pregnant woman, and not in an awesome way but in a "it is really depressing" sort of way.

[Rolan7]

I feel like the obvious next step would be a modern remake of Metal Gear 1 and 2.  Ideally keep it as a top-down arcadey thing, but with dialogue that fits the story and tone better.
Like how Metroid Zero Mission was essentially like Metroid 1 but with improved gameplay and story.

Of course Kojima's not on board anymore I guess?  So hire this person http://zarla.livejournal.com/230920.html

[SOLDIER First]

MG1/2: 1/2 Snake / Single Snake, respectively
Edit: Also that (and the following pages) is the best thing ive ever read

[Stuebi]

After being a bit confused about some things mentioned I actually played MGS 1 and 2 the past days. Geezus is it hard to follow the plot. And Seeing Ocelot in 1&2 made me think the one in Phantom Pain seems... really out of character. Granted he's younger. Maybe everyone just get's really grumpy once they hit a certain age in the MGS Universe.

I have a question or two tough, for people who might be a little more knowledgable about the Universe:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I have a really hard time keeping track on the whole technology-thing in MGS. Sahelanthropus in MGS 5 is appearantly a really big deal, since he's a bipedal nuclear threat. And in MGS you also look for one that's appearantly really dangerous. So I assumed they're really hard to build and maintain. After playing MGS 2, I'm very confused. It seemed really easy to mass produce those MG Rays. And Metal Gear Arsenal is appearantly just a big boat with a Nuclear bomb in it.

So basically, what exactly makes Metal Gears so special? As opposed to say... an atomic submarine. Or any regular Nuke, really.

Second, about Big Boss. Is he supposed to be morally ambigious? After learning about the Patriots it seems the Goverments of most big nations are either corrupt or secretely evil anyways. So the idea of a seperate, free nation doesnt sound that villany at all. At least no more than all those PF's, Terrorists and Illuminati running around.

[Rolan7]

Yeah Ocelot really ought to be flirting with Snake harder.  Uh I mean... actually that's more a MGS3 thing.  And in my heart.

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Keep in mind that MGS5 takes place in, I think the 80's?  MGS1 takes place years later, and MGS2 even later.  So while the REX horde made me think "okay so the past hour has been a dream sequence right", it makes relative sense.  Technology is getting pretty advanced at that point.

Though the technology in the Metal Gear universe is consistently leaps and bounds above real life.  nanomachines nanomachines nanomachines.  Holographic PDAs in the 80's.

And... well, I'd say Ocelot's main thing is to be passive and helpful to various people...  Only to stab them in the back, or at least serve his own purposes.  At least they had him leading the interrogations in MGS5.  While it's hard to pin down the real him, I think we can be pretty sure that he's truly a sadistic fuck.
<3

Whereas Big Boss is trying to honor someone's memory, and fix the entire world, despite the cost.  I think he actually cares, enough to suffer as he hurts people.

[Sergarr]

I have a question or two tough, for people who might be a little more knowledgable about the Universe:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I have a really hard time keeping track on the whole technology-thing in MGS. Sahelanthropus in MGS 5 is appearantly a really big deal, since he's a bipedal nuclear threat. And in MGS you also look for one that's appearantly really dangerous. So I assumed they're really hard to build and maintain. After playing MGS 2, I'm very confused. It seemed really easy to mass produce those MG Rays. And Metal Gear Arsenal is appearantly just a big boat with a Nuclear bomb in it.

So basically, what exactly makes Metal Gears so special? As opposed to say... an atomic submarine. Or any regular Nuke, really.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

What makes Metal Gears special is that they're made with using super-advanced technologies which were developed in secret by pseudo-Illuminati, and are thus super-duper strong to everything. There's no real reason to be actually using the bipedal platform, outside of "we can do this and this looks really cool", as identified by Shagohod not really being a walker, yet still being an uber-vehicle.

The special thing is not the nuclear capability itself, but the supposed un-interceptability of the warheads launched by its railgun. Also, vehicles that are designed to combat Metal Gears or to produce them are also called Metal Gear, even if they lack the nuclear railgun capability themselves.

As for production issues, I think this is related to the overall ridiculous rate of technological advance in MGS series. In MGS1 a first generation of nanomachines has just invented (and carried by Solid Snake), and the only training available was real training. In MGS2, four years later, quite a lot of people use nanomachines, for communication at least, and VR training is used to train people much faster than before. In MGS4, five years later from MGS2, we have the System, which allows even faster combat training for people by precise micromanagement of every physiological parameter by nanomachines, and allows soldiers to share sense on the battlefield.

It's basically technological magic.

[Neonivek]

Every Metal Gear had different reasons for being special

The Peacewalker brand of Metal Gears were special because they were an automatic response system. In otherwords you invade and your guaranteed some nukes up your butt.

Its Bipedal aspect was mostly to make it all terrain because it was built to basically hide underwater and walk across the ocean floor.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

Or, as in PW, to traverse the uneven and muddy landscape of whatever country it was set in.

[Neonivek]

Some of the Metal Gears didn't make sense to me personally. Namely the Metal Gear Rex... Who didn't have nukes and weren't particularly strong, powerful, or easy to make.

I hope I am thinking of the right Metal Gears, the T-Rex ones.

[Furtuka]

Er I think you're thinking of... either Metal Gear Ray or the Gekkos. Metal Gear Rex was practically indestructible and arguably the best performing Metal Gear in the series

[Neonivek]

Er I think you're thinking of... either Metal Gear Ray or the Gekkos. Metal Gear Rex was practically indestructible and arguably the best performing Metal Gear in the series

Very arguable, I guess it depends what it was supposed to do.

Peacewalker would get my vote.

[Akura]

Spoiler: Do note that (click to show/hide)

"Metal Gear" refers to the bipedal locomotion technology that allows it to walk, not the nuclear railgun. That was REX's particular shtick, the idea being able to launch a nuclear warhead without a giant cloud of rocket fuel exhaust revealing the launch or its origin.

RAY's was that it was supposed to be an unmanned(though the prototype was manned) amphibious interception vehicle, specifically designed to combat other Metal Gear. If Cmdnt. Dolph's speech is to believed, they were supposed to attack in groups, with an AI guiding them. It was stolen and redesigned as an escort for Arsenal Gear.

Arsenal Gear wasn't a walker, so I don't call it a Metal Gear. It was a mobile underwater fortress with nuclear weapons and an AI (supposedly) designed to control the Internet.

Peace Walker was an unmanned retaliation system. It could walk into position, where it would autonomously launch nuclear retaliation in response to Soviet nuclear attack, or walk into enemy territory and either await orders to self-destruct with it's hydrogen bomb, or detonate if someone tried to disable it. ZEKE was much the same way, only without the H-Bomb and only capable of launching if a human gives the order.

I'm guessing the the Metal Gears from the pre-Solid games were simply supposed to be walking tanks carrying a nuclear missile with global range. No range for Peace Walker's/ZEKE's missile was established(Costa Rica was only used to establish it's all-terrain capability, not as a launch base), and the Shagohod was armed with an IRBM, not an ICBM.

I haven't played MGS4 yet, so I don't know what's in that.

[Neonivek]

Though when it comes to which Metal Gear was closest to destroying the world...

 

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Peacewalker... period

A Miracle had to happen for it to be stopped

Did I mention I love peacewalker? It was the reason I bought this game. It felt like my only real chance to play peacewalker myself

[Stuebi]

I wont be able to play Peacewalker, sadly. Dont own a PSP.

And I just started playing MGS 3. By god is young Ocelot ADORABLE.

[Putnam]

everyone at your FOBs (not sure what exactly this entails, could simply be everyone except directly contracted people) are at risk, only security team takes part in the defense, your soldiers can be stolen by a raid on that platform but they can't if they're directly onctracted